Lebell

I think I specifically said that it would need to be a mainstream discussion.

I grant that this is more or less subjective (what isn't in politics), but just polling all the mods I don't think any of them, left or right or nothing would think this is a mainstream issue.

So one or two articles in a mainstream paper probably wouldn't qualify for me, but if it was an expose on 60 minutes that was then investigated by the NY Times and then several senators started saying the same thing...well, that's the sort of thing that would make me pause about placing it here instead of in "Politics".

Hope that helps you understand my mental process on this even if you don't agree with it.

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