pan6467

While Stalin and Hitler did sign a treaty of non-agression it was not an alliance but Hitler trying to follow one of Bismark's War Doctrines "Let Sleeping Bears Lie - (never attack Russia).... Russia was at the time more worried about Japan.

Let us never forget Stalin also took the war accords of Peter that stated Russia should seek and control a warm water seaport. It truly was just a matter of time between Germany and Russia. The treaty really was just an excuse for both sides to build up, and allow Germany to take Poland without Russian interference.

Once a treaty was established with Japan (that held primarily throughout WW2), Stalin then felt secure enough to build up a front facing Germany. I don't think either side can truly claim they were the agressor/agressee. It was just one of those events where 2 sides were built up suspicious but not combative until one side made a mistake, and that was that.

The Germans would have easily won had not the US and UK been so aggresive in North Africa. That was where the war was truly won. Once the Allies controlled The rock of Gibralter and the oil fields in the Middle East, Hitler was doomed. The whole purpose of Hitler's alliance with Mussolini was to have a warm water seaport for his navy.

Il Duche was nothing more than a Hitler puppet and what killed Mussolini's German support was when Hitler took France and had the French seaports (these seaports were tantamount to the Japan-German trade of information and research). That finished Hitler's need for Mussolini and was probably one of the biggest mistakes Hitler could have made. Letting Italy go on its own with a very unpopular leader forced a 3 front war, as the Allies went up through Italy and left Southern France alone. By going up Italy and then swerving left into more Central France, the Allies then were very effective to cut off the seaports Hitler needed in the winters.

Once those seaports were cut off and Italy was no longer there for Hitler, the tide of the war changed. The British Navy controlled the North Sea and Hitler was too weak as he had put most of his navy into the Med. and French seaports. And with The Rock of Gibraltar in Allied hands his Med. Navy was effectively cut off and destroyed.

So to claim that Russia was truly the one to take Hitler out, is not true. They served the purpose of keeping Hitler's land troops preoccupied so that France fell faster. Just as the US's primary role was to take the Med. and the UK's role was to hold the North Sea.

All three "Allies" did exactly what was necessary and all three achieved the goal.

Had the US failed to control the Med. or the UK failed to control the North Sea or the Russians failed to preoccupy the ground troops...... had one of those Allies failed in their primary objective.... odds are we would all be speaking German and Japanese.

So let's stop this bickering over who did what to end Hitler's tyranny..... because ALL 3 MAJOR ALLIES were responsible in pretty equal terms.

BTW my personal opinion had Hitler not been so bent on a "master race" and had he treated the Jews as equals and not had a Holocaust, he would easily have conquered the world.

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