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Originally Posted by f6twister
In reading Cynthetiq's posting of the hate crime definition, I would have to agree that this doesn't meet the criteria. The group did what they did because they were told they would have to wait to use the court, not because the kids happened to be white.
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But then again, had the kids using the basket ball court been black, it would probably have been a different story. I kno this from experience, and living in new york city for all my life. When I used to hang out with my friends, if it was me and just other white people, and we came across a group of 10 or more black kids, they would always try to start something. But when I was hanging out with my black friends, and we come across a group of 10 or so other black kids, they don't try to start anything. And when me and my black friends come a cross a group of white kids, they never do anything, but some of my friends give them mean looks often. so to say its not racial is just not true.
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Originally Posted by Suave
The main issue is whether or not there was intent behind it. Accidental crime warrants lesser punishment. Heat of the moment crime also warrants the same thing. Planned crime warrants the most significant punishment. Anything else invovled in motivation is simply different facets of the same thing, and should not be treated differently.
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I would think that after being told to wait your turn, then going and gathering 30 or so people to beat up 4 girls requires some planning...