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Originally Posted by Church
First of, please actually -read- what I write before you say things like this. I said I will take pictures of it this summer when they start spraying again.
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I did read. I was reemphasizing the fact that you have absolutely no evidence with which to back up your claim.
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Back to the topic of Barium, I brought that up not because they are going to x-ray us, that's just proposterous. Rather I brought it up because it is used to reflect radiation. There are theories that if we can reflect the radiation and heat, then we can allow the earth to cool down again and seal the hole in the ozone layer. But a side effect of USING Barium to do this is seen all over the place. Its funny that ever since they started doing this back in 1992 that acute respiratory problems in the summer have gone up significantly which MIGHT be caused by the chemicals that are being sprayed.
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I assume you are getting the "fact" that they are using barium from this page?
http://www.carnicom.com/flame1.htm
If so, that's an absurd source. He doesn't cite any respected scientific study that shows barium has increased in concentration. He cites himself twice, which any real scientist will tell you is a bullshit circular citation, and then the rest of his citations go to basic chemistry books which don't say anything about the government, much less that the government is dousing us in barium. This page is bunk. If you can show me some REAL EVIDENCE of this, perhaps I'd have an open mind. But saying "It's true because this guy who no one's ever heard of says it's true and he cites himself as his primary reference so he must be for real" is not going to convince anyone.
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Also, why do I get grid contrails over my city? They are not flight paths and they hang around for hours most of the time turning into clouds. Which also helps my theory that if we cover problem areas in clouds, then it will also stop the heat from getting in.
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What city? Do you have pictures? They're obviously flight paths, even if we buy your explanation for them - - - you are after all saying they are being deposited by airplanes which are, presumably, flying at the time. So since we can both agree that airplanes were in the area before these "grid contrails" appeared, we are back to our original debate - whether these contrails are caused by water vapor exiting the engines or by a nefarious government plot.
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And I admit that site is a little over the top, but they have done some legitimate research into the subject including scientific experiments and interviews.
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Blurry pictures and citing onesself does not a scientific experiment make. Have these scientific experiment result papers been submitted for peer review? Apparently not, or if they were (they weren't) the peer reviews were so full of laughter that these guys didn't post them.
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Just stop being so high and mighty and actually read the arguments before you shut it out just because you've been in a few hangars and haven't seen anything, because we ALL know that you have high security clearance.
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You seem to think that people who don't blindly follow the conspiracy theorist leader are being high and mighty, when in fact we're just being intelligent. We expect more evidence than "It's true! I seen 'em!" There are plenty of real conspiracies out there that we don't feel the need to waste our time with the ones that are obviously bullshit.