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Originally Posted by Pacifier
Does it mattter? Is it kindergarden?  "he started?"
A civilised nation should never go down on the level of terrorism, and torture is a very low level.
"We" are better than that, we should not use such methodes, no matter what those people do to us. |
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Originally Posted by daswig
When USGIs start ripping out people's fingernails with pliers and similar activities, THEN I'll condemn our torturing people.
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I would love to see you in those prisions for a week or two, than we can talk about "torture or no torture" again....
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"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death
— Albert Einstein
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