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pan6467 · 12-02-2004, 08:24 PM

Does 1921 ring a bell to anyone?

The owners buried in deep at the end of 1919 and denied all rumors. Then all of a sudden people started talking in big ways. The players denied it (and I do believe in Shoeless Joe and Buck Weaver got the short end of the stick).

But in the end a man by the name Judge Keenesaw Mountain Landis, stood tall and expelled quite arguably baseball's greatest natural hitter and some great HOF caliber players, to save the sport from bad press and to set a standard. Because of this, the all time hits leader and pathological gambling addict Peter Edward Rose shall never be placed in the hallowed halls of Cooperstown.

That standard has been sadly destroyed not just by the players union but by the greedy, self centered players who no longer care about the fans.

In the early '80 there was talk of how the players had been partaking of illegal narcotics freely. Peter Ueberroth called quite a few players, most past their prime and the rest utility bench warmers to answer questions. Those Players many of whom this generation have never heard of are: Dale Berra; Keith Hernandez; Dave Parker; Enos Cabell; Lonnie Smith; Jeff Leonard; John Milner; Joaquin Andujar; Rod Scurry; Bill Madlock; Gary Matthews; Lee Lacy; Tim Raines; Al Holland; Dusty Baker; Lary Sorensen.... missing from the list are admitted drug addicts, Steve Howe (who had been suspended for drug violations), Dwight "Doc" Gooden, Darryl Strawberry and so on.

There were some from that list, such as Dale Berra, who were kicked out but primarily the players involved were set free to go about and play the game.

Had baseball taken a stand then and expelled all players involved like Judge Landis, perhaps today baseball would have a clean reputation and the scandal now facing it a pipe dream of someone writing a fictious novel. One can dream.

After years of watered down drug suspensions and allowing the players union to dictate the policies, Major League Baseball is now faced to take a stand and not just suspend but ban all users of steroids. Players Union be damned it is time for the owners, the fans and the government (if need be) to take a stand and say, "What is illegal for the rest of us, is illegal for you."

For allowing these player to partake in illegal activities and get away with it is not how this country should work. In 1921, it didn't and some of the greatest players in that era paid a price. So should players today who put themselves above the rules of the game and the laws of the land. For our laws mean nothing, if those who give our kids hopes and dreams during the summer, knowingly, willfully and without hesitation ignore them and break those laws.

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pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Does 1921 ring a bell to anyone? The owners buried in deep at the end of 1919 and denied all rumors. Then all of a sudden people started talking in big ways. The players denied it (and I do believe in Shoeless Joe and Buck Weaver got the short end of the stick). But in the end a man by the name Judge Keenesaw Mountain Landis, stood tall and expelled quite arguably baseball's greatest natural hitter and some great HOF caliber players, to save the sport from bad press and to set a standard. Because of this, the all time hits leader and pathological gambling addict Peter Edward Rose shall never be placed in the hallowed halls of Cooperstown. That standard has been sadly destroyed not just by the players union but by the greedy, self centered players who no longer care about the fans. In the early '80 there was talk of how the players had been partaking of illegal narcotics freely. Peter Ueberroth called quite a few players, most past their prime and the rest utility bench warmers to answer questions. Those Players many of whom this generation have never heard of are: Dale Berra; Keith Hernandez; Dave Parker; Enos Cabell; Lonnie Smith; Jeff Leonard; John Milner; Joaquin Andujar; Rod Scurry; Bill Madlock; Gary Matthews; Lee Lacy; Tim Raines; Al Holland; Dusty Baker; Lary Sorensen.... missing from the list are admitted drug addicts, Steve Howe (who had been suspended for drug violations), Dwight "Doc" Gooden, Darryl Strawberry and so on. There were some from that list, such as Dale Berra, who were kicked out but primarily the players involved were set free to go about and play the game. Had baseball taken a stand then and expelled all players involved like Judge Landis, perhaps today baseball would have a clean reputation and the scandal now facing it a pipe dream of someone writing a fictious novel. One can dream. After years of watered down drug suspensions and allowing the players union to dictate the policies, Major League Baseball is now faced to take a stand and not just suspend but ban all users of steroids. Players Union be damned it is time for the owners, the fans and the government (if need be) to take a stand and say, "What is illegal for the rest of us, is illegal for you." For allowing these player to partake in illegal activities and get away with it is not how this country should work. In 1921, it didn't and some of the greatest players in that era paid a price. So should players today who put themselves above the rules of the game and the laws of the land. For our laws mean nothing, if those who give our kids hopes and dreams during the summer, knowingly, willfully and without hesitation ignore them and break those laws. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 12-02-2004 at 08:37 PM..