Originally Posted by welshbyte

Theoretically you could create a whole number base, based on pi. Where pi is 1. So the ratio of the cirumference of a circle to its diameter (or whatever pi is) would always be 1. Numbers, and therefore mathematics ares tools created by humans. Sometimes the universe likes to reveal how complicated it really is and get us all philosophical about concepts that we cant reinvent without evolving massively more intelligent brains to understand the universe better so we're just stuck with them.