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Why do we need to define ourselves in relation to men? I think it's much more productive to define oneself in relation to oneself as an individual, and to others as individuals, rather than defining yourself as part of a group set opposite another group. These kinds of definitions - the ones you list above - are inherently limiting, whether they're positive or negative.
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but we do - even if it is on the individual level. We define ourselves in realtion to everything.
but the universe and the number 42 is not what I am out to tackle.
rather - rephrase....when a man and a woman have a relationship together - what are the proper boundaries according to society? society is different fromwhen my parents were young. outside of the individual - where would today's society see the ideal couple in realtion to eachother?