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Originally Posted by wnker85
For the record I would like to keep marriage a man and woman ideal, but I can not oppose it on others, I feel that it is sad that they are taking a intuition that has been apart of religion my religion and others and destroying what is was meant to be.
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My main beef with everything is how people are such hypocrites (and I'm not referring to you).
The very people who claim to love this country and want to do what's right, yet they shit all over the very basic freemdoms that are granted to everyone regardless of race, color, sex, sexual orientation, penis size, whatthefuckever.
These are the same people who, time and time again, fail to give a coherent logical reason as to why (for example), a gay couple shouldn't enjoy the same GOVERNMENTAL BENEFITS of being civilly united (aka, married). For this particular example, it has nothing to do with religion anymore regardless of where it started for the simple fact the government decided to dip their hand in the jar and provide additional benefits for those who choose this status. This status applies whether you are pagan, jewish, arab, christian, catholic, scientologist, or whatthefuckever.
The government is not allowed to make legislation based upon religious morals - there is separation of church and state, and that must be followed and respected regardless of your beliefs.
Yet, people think they are an exception. They can't give a locial reason why THEY are allowed special benefits being married, yet others aren't. Why, because of their sex? *ding ding* Sexual discrimination.
If you support this country and everything it was founded upon, then you have to do it across the board. You can't say, "oh, my religion believes this, so I think I'll make an exception." Bzzzt. Doesn't work like that.
At the same time, if you feel marriage is part of your religion and should mean something, then you should get mad at the government for allowing others outside of your religion to have privileges... because once the govt steps in, everyone HAS to be treated equally in that aspect regardless of their (or your) beliefs. There's no exceptions.
I agree, it'll take time and eventually things will get straightened out, but it's HILARIOUS at the amount of people who don't understand that.
Like I've said in other threads, I don't have a problem with conservative views at all - it's just the hyprocrisy surrounding it all. You can't be supportive of what this country stands for, yet at the same time make a conscious decision to deny privileges or rights to a certain group of people based on sex (and this does include preference), race, or religion because of YOUR beliefs. That's just not how this country works!