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Originally Posted by Halx
Pleeeeeeaaaaaaase do not go for Mercedes. I beg of you. I do not want to see any more disgruntled car owners than there already are.
So, Lockjaw, I'm really concerned about your concept of speed. Does one need to express their vehicle's maximum performance at every single stoplight? Really, that's the only way you're gonna be able to tell the difference between the TL and the G35 engines. As well, in that case, I would fear greatly for your well-being. BTW, the 6-spd TL gets 5.7 sec on 0-60.
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Why not? Companies are making the cars faster and faster for a reason.
If you don't want the speed fine but that doesn't mean the TL has "lots of speed". It's adequate.
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All I know is I can seamlessly merge onto the 80mph freeway, even if there is a grandma going 20 in front of me down the onramp. That's all you need speed for. And if you need it for anything else, why even aim for this sector of the market? Why not get an S2000 and put a supercharger in it. 350hp, rwd, and a light, snazzy convertible. That's speed when you NEED it.
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Because I'm assuming if he is pricing the Evo as one of his choices his preference might be for speed. Now if he had said say which is better Saab 9-3, Jaguar X type instead of EVo and Legacy and then making statements about the Legacy's potential then I would be predisposed to believe he'd want style over performance.
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I can't stand how debates between these two cars always comes down to speed and handling as if these entry-level luxury cars are gonna be used for fucking autocross.
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Have you considered not everybody wants an under performing car even if it's a little bit nicer?
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I can think of better ways to waste my warranty, thanks. Can we focus on how the Acura shifts smoother, has better fuel efficiency and lower emissions? Can we also note that the Honda/Acura navigation system is second to none, and it's integrated with the rest of the car, with voice activation for everything. I've played with the Nissan/Infiniti navi system in my dad's new car... it's junior league with NO integration.
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Again you might want bells and whistles others might not. Personally I don't and if I had the choice I'd take the G35 in a heart beat over the TL. Fuel effciency...eh I really don't care. I'm willing to sacrifice those things for a faster better handling car that also has 98% of the creature comfort I'd ever want. I don't need electricly heated seats with messaging lumbar support and automated exfoliating facial scrub applicator. And I'm suspecting if he's considering those other cars he would likely not want or need all that other stuff either. It's all about your priorities. Ours obviously aren't the same that's not a bad thing but if I'm dropping mid 30s for a car I want it to be as fast or faster than a hopped up econo box.
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So sure, if you're going to ever use that 1 extra second in the quarter mile, go with the G35. You'll be driving the same car as 10 of your neighbors, but at least you'll be able to beat all the Acura TL's by a nose. That's worth the complete drop-off in luxury features and feel, right?
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A second in a quarter mile is not beating something by a nose lol. Try several car lengths. And around my parts the TL isn't exactly all that "rare" either so that wouldn't matter. If I wanted "rare" I'd try to save up for a Viper.
But yes if I want to be faster than most cars on the roads including the guys in their Acuras that THINK they are fast and can stop and go on a dime,turn very well, have an overall (IMO) more appealing body lines, and then be able to sit in a cockpit that fits all of my personal needs and IMO doesn't have a monsterous drop off in quality(since we are minimizing the differences after all like a second slower would be just a nose behind) or appearance...as a guy who likes speed then yes...yes the G35 to me is the better car.