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roachboy · 09-20-2004, 07:28 AM

http://www.cc.org/issues.cfm

here is a summary of the christian coalition's legislative agenda--it is pretty repellent stuff, frankly.

what is curious is that i cannot find a way to determine the extent of the coalition, organizationally.

i did find quite a bit of ugly stuff on teh site--under "church liaisons" at teh bottom, for example, you find points instructing affiliated pastors that they can act "as private citizens" and endorse particular [christian-type] candidates, and to endorse that candidate to the flock because preachers "do not loose the right to free speech because they work for a church"--wherein lies a kernel that enables one to see the wholesale blurring of religious and political statements particular to this space.

at the bottom of the page linked above, you will find a series of acts the cc endorses that gives swaggart the latitude to be a fuckwit in his particular way but still be consistent with the cc position.

but because the limits of the christian coalition is difficult to determine, and because swaggart is expressing a line consistent with what you can know about the cc,
what exactly is the problem with treating swaggart as symbolic of the cc?
explain this to me, please....

what it looks like is that swaggart would be fine for inclusion if what he was saying was not embarrassing, and equally fine for exclusion when he is embarrassing--because the entity of the cc is itself amorphous, this functions as a kind of plausible deniability.

so the straw man being set up in this thread comes from ustwo, who arrogates to himself, without justification, the ability to determine where the cc starts and stops.

09-20-2004, 07:28 AM	#18 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	http://www.cc.org/issues.cfm here is a summary of the christian coalition's legislative agenda--it is pretty repellent stuff, frankly. what is curious is that i cannot find a way to determine the extent of the coalition, organizationally. i did find quite a bit of ugly stuff on teh site--under "church liaisons" at teh bottom, for example, you find points instructing affiliated pastors that they can act "as private citizens" and endorse particular [christian-type] candidates, and to endorse that candidate to the flock because preachers "do not loose the right to free speech because they work for a church"--wherein lies a kernel that enables one to see the wholesale blurring of religious and political statements particular to this space. at the bottom of the page linked above, you will find a series of acts the cc endorses that gives swaggart the latitude to be a fuckwit in his particular way but still be consistent with the cc position. but because the limits of the christian coalition is difficult to determine, and because swaggart is expressing a line consistent with what you can know about the cc, what exactly is the problem with treating swaggart as symbolic of the cc? explain this to me, please.... what it looks like is that swaggart would be fine for inclusion if what he was saying was not embarrassing, and equally fine for exclusion when he is embarrassing--because the entity of the cc is itself amorphous, this functions as a kind of plausible deniability. so the straw man being set up in this thread comes from ustwo, who arrogates to himself, without justification, the ability to determine where the cc starts and stops. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 09-20-2004 at 07:36 AM..