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analog · 09-19-2004, 08:08 PM

Mod note:

Real quick: while writing this, I realized I’m cursing more than normal- which is out of frustration, not anger- and I do a lot of capitalization... this is for EMPHASIS, not because I’m yelling.

Ok people, I'm not shutting this down. Since this is a waste-of-space thread anyway, I'm going to take this opportunity to find out exactly what the fuck goes through your minds. You can actually respond to me right here in this very thread as to WHY it's SO HORRIBLE here in Tilted Politics. I'm serious. I want to have a thread here about why YOU ALL think that this forum is so fucking bad- and more importantly, what YOU ALL can do to correct it.

Guess what- YOU ALL are the ones who keep the board going. You feed it info, you take in the opinions of others, and give your own in return. YOU people are the ones who bicker, whine, argue, call people names, incite anger, flame, bait, curse, blindly hate AND blindly follow people/parties/ideals/etc. The moderation staff here, while perhaps involved in posting on a personal level, does not determine the course, affiliation, methods, or practices used to post here. We only tell you not to flame or bait each other, and that threads must actually be a discussion, not just “I like/hate this thing that happened, do you?”. Quality, people, quality. You can get flaming, baiting, and bullshit nonsense “discussions” pretty much anywhere on this huge thing we call the internet.

Point 1: "Liberals" complain that the "Conservatives" get away with Kerry-bashing –OR- "Conservatives" complain that the "Liberals" get away with Bush-bashing.

Answer: We can't catch, decide on the merit of, and edit (if need be) EVERY fucking post you people put up here. Some of us have our own politics, and are less or more sensitive according to it- not willing to ignore, just perhaps less sensitive than you, who are VERY sensitive. I do not really "do" politics- I hate politics, so I dare anyone to try and find a bias in my editing/closing/etc. Any attempt to do so will be met with my laughter, as I do not have a bias- you ALL piss me off when you ALL get like this.

Point 2: People complain about a thread being closed.

Answer: If a dozen people are having a big discussion, and you are the only one out of the dozen or more to write a mod and gripe about it’s closing, then guess what- IT STAYS CLOSED. Jesus, this is not hard to figure out, people. Threads close to begin with because SOME PERSON or multiple people couldn’t keep their shit together and abide by the rules. You people in Politics are THE ONLY people on the TFP who consistently and blatantly disobey the established rules for this forum- and you almost never get in trouble for it. Getting a PM from a moderator to tone it down, or to take it easy, or watch what you say, is not “getting in trouble”. I don’t know how cake your lives are that getting a PM about doing what you’re supposed to be doing anyway seems like a scolding, but it’s not. Get some maturity, realize that you’ve done wrong, and try to fix it for next time, ok?

Point 3: There is a belief among some that Mods close threads when they want to, based on their own affiliations.

Answer: Just because you disagree with our decisions, does not mean that they are incorrect. We have a set of rules, we use that set of rules to identify problem threads, and we close when a thread is clearly in violation or, because we’ve been doing this long enough, sometimes when it’s obvious from the opening post and first few responses that the post will only degrade into a flame war, like all that have come before it that were like it. Yes, it’s THAT EASY to tell when that’s going to happen, and we will close a thread regardless of who it plays to.

In our capacities, we are objective and are only holding you to the rules that are set forth for you. We do not make things up as we go along, and we do not favor people or parties. If you’re hell-bent on believing that we’re really here just to oppress you, then good luck in life- because this is only an online web board.

How about you all have a discussion as to how you’re going to be decent human beings to each other, rather than how we’re trying to censor you. We only edit/close when you’ve broken a rule. That’s like me arguing with a cop over a speeding ticket because I WANT to speed, and “he’s being an asshole and enforcing the law.” The rules are there for a reason... quit breaking them, and we won’t have these problems.

Feel free to respond- the normal rules of flaming and baiting, etc., apply as always. Maybe you should think about how you POSITIVELY contribute to the board, and not just bring on the rhetoric every time you put your fingers to the keys.

- analog.

09-19-2004, 08:08 PM	#26 (permalink)
analog Banned	Mod note: Real quick: while writing this, I realized I’m cursing more than normal- which is out of frustration, not anger- and I do a lot of capitalization... this is for EMPHASIS, not because I’m yelling. Ok people, I'm not shutting this down. Since this is a waste-of-space thread anyway, I'm going to take this opportunity to find out exactly what the fuck goes through your minds. You can actually respond to me right here in this very thread as to WHY it's SO HORRIBLE here in Tilted Politics. I'm serious. I want to have a thread here about why YOU ALL think that this forum is so fucking bad- and more importantly, what YOU ALL can do to correct it. Guess what- YOU ALL are the ones who keep the board going. You feed it info, you take in the opinions of others, and give your own in return. YOU people are the ones who bicker, whine, argue, call people names, incite anger, flame, bait, curse, blindly hate AND blindly follow people/parties/ideals/etc. The moderation staff here, while perhaps involved in posting on a personal level, does not determine the course, affiliation, methods, or practices used to post here. We only tell you not to flame or bait each other, and that threads must actually be a discussion, not just “I like/hate this thing that happened, do you?”. Quality, people, quality. You can get flaming, baiting, and bullshit nonsense “discussions” pretty much anywhere on this huge thing we call the internet. Point 1: "Liberals" complain that the "Conservatives" get away with Kerry-bashing –OR- "Conservatives" complain that the "Liberals" get away with Bush-bashing. Answer: We can't catch, decide on the merit of, and edit (if need be) EVERY fucking post you people put up here. Some of us have our own politics, and are less or more sensitive according to it- not willing to ignore, just perhaps less sensitive than you, who are VERY sensitive. I do not really "do" politics- I hate politics, so I dare anyone to try and find a bias in my editing/closing/etc. Any attempt to do so will be met with my laughter, as I do not have a bias- you ALL piss me off when you ALL get like this. Point 2: People complain about a thread being closed. Answer: If a dozen people are having a big discussion, and you are the only one out of the dozen or more to write a mod and gripe about it’s closing, then guess what- IT STAYS CLOSED. Jesus, this is not hard to figure out, people. Threads close to begin with because SOME PERSON or multiple people couldn’t keep their shit together and abide by the rules. You people in Politics are THE ONLY people on the TFP who consistently and blatantly disobey the established rules for this forum- and you almost never get in trouble for it. Getting a PM from a moderator to tone it down, or to take it easy, or watch what you say, is not “getting in trouble”. I don’t know how cake your lives are that getting a PM about doing what you’re supposed to be doing anyway seems like a scolding, but it’s not. Get some maturity, realize that you’ve done wrong, and try to fix it for next time, ok? Point 3: There is a belief among some that Mods close threads when they want to, based on their own affiliations. Answer: Just because you disagree with our decisions, does not mean that they are incorrect. We have a set of rules, we use that set of rules to identify problem threads, and we close when a thread is clearly in violation or, because we’ve been doing this long enough, sometimes when it’s obvious from the opening post and first few responses that the post will only degrade into a flame war, like all that have come before it that were like it. Yes, it’s THAT EASY to tell when that’s going to happen, and we will close a thread regardless of who it plays to. In our capacities, we are objective and are only holding you to the rules that are set forth for you. We do not make things up as we go along, and we do not favor people or parties. If you’re hell-bent on believing that we’re really here just to oppress you, then good luck in life- because this is only an online web board. How about you all have a discussion as to how you’re going to be decent human beings to each other, rather than how we’re trying to censor you. We only edit/close when you’ve broken a rule. That’s like me arguing with a cop over a speeding ticket because I WANT to speed, and “he’s being an asshole and enforcing the law.” The rules are there for a reason... quit breaking them, and we won’t have these problems. Feel free to respond- the normal rules of flaming and baiting, etc., apply as always. Maybe you should think about how you POSITIVELY contribute to the board, and not just bring on the rhetoric every time you put your fingers to the keys. - analog.