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Old 09-19-2004, 09:34 AM   #29 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by MikeyChalupa
Here's an example of someone who doesn't understand misconstruing this article.

This happens ALL THE TIME in the military. You signed on for a reason. The military is going to get their return on their investment in you. You NEVER tell your chain of command you're planning on getting out until you leave because if you do, they're going to have to get as much out of you before you leave as they can, i.e. deployed overseas, lack of advancement or promotion opportunities, no training opportunities. If those Guardsmen had just re-enlisted, they'd in all likelihood be staying stateside a lot longer with their unit. Or should they just have turned the 3rd Armored Cav right back around and sent them to Iraq with the same group that just returned from there, and no relief personnel?

But of course, the point of this article is that the military is bad, evil and just plain sucks to have any association with. Probably Bush's fault.

-Mikey
I've never heard of people being threatened to re-enlist. Hell, people would count the days down they had left to serve. Of course when I was in the Navy, Bush had cut 70,000 Marine and Navy jobs and they were offering people early outs. Then 6 months later Desert Storm hit.

Hmmmm threatening troops to reenlist or be transferred.... sounds like they will have a seriously BAD morale problem. Especially if you send them back to Iraq. Wouldn't want those men fighting for me. I want men and women who want to be there, not ones forced to be there through threats and blackmail. Ask Vietnam vets what that's like. Cause once ya get enough people there that don't truly care, don't want to be there, and are bitter because the government screwed with them (and yes, being told you will reenlist or be sent back is screwing with them) you've lost the war.

If you aren't offering a bonus or reward for reenlistment and instead you treat soldiers this way.... the men are going to be a little pissy and the morale is going to go to Hell. We can have all the great weapons in the world but if we don't have the men wanting to use them......they are indeed worthless scraps of metal.

Morale wins and loses wars boys.... and I don't see our president inspiring it. "We can't win the war on terror." "I don't know how soon you men will get home." "You'll be home by June..... errrrr ok Sept. ...... well hopefully by Christmas...... Reenlist or we'll send you back......" some mighty great incentives there.

If anything I can see volunteer enlistment going down fast... so maybe there will have to be a draft soon.... which will just make matters worse.

Sad really all this for oil and over lies.
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