09-14-2004, 04:46 PM
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WARNING: FLAMMABLE
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CA? Your screwed, you'll never get it even if you manage to fill out the app.
At least that is the going word on the street.
http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/california
For instance :-)
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Los Angeles Police Department
Documents Required:
No documents required. No reason needed.
Please see note below.
Process:
Process is simple, everyone is DENIED. There are only 8 CCW's in this city of 3 million.
Please see notes below.
Notes:
According to a chart issued by the California Attorney General's Office, Los Angeles County had issued a total of 874 permits based on numbers calculated in the year 2000. I cannot attest to the accuracy of this number as it was provided by a source that cannot provide documentation. I have heard, directly from a Police Officer who had previously been stationed with the LAPD, that during the last 4-5 years, a greater number of permits have been issued. I was told the Los Angeles area has become quite a bit more lenient with the issuance of permits. I do not know if that is for the city or the county, but it is good news.
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For San Bernardino Specifical...
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San Bernardino - UPDATED 04/18/04
Documents Required:
Birth certificate or naturalization papers (copies OK), CA Driver's License, "Copy of recent utility bill or copy of property deed or parcel number or any other sufficient proof full-time residency within the County..." (quoted from the application verbatim)
3 letters of character reference (originals).
A standard application that requested information like: personal info, SSN, address, employer, 4 additional references that will be contacted by mail or phone, employment history, residence history for the past 10 years, prior CCW applications, questions about past felonies or psychiatric illnesses, names and addresses of 3 neighbors.
A statement of WHY you should be issued a CCW. "Self Defense" will probably NOT be accepted as a valid reason in itself. There are also clauses that disqualify any person convicted of a "Misdemeanor crime of domestic violence."
Process:
Application is made directly through the San Bernardino County Sheriff. You may apply through a city within the county, however, your chances of approval are slim. The Sheriff has been described as being fairly liberal with the issuance of permits when a "good cause" is presented.
Notes:
The following statements are from a permitted individual: To my knowledge, ALL provided information was investigated FULLY. DO NOT even think of attempting to apply if you have ANY intent to deceive or hide a criminal background.
Q: Must carry permit by law? A: I was required to attend a CCW course run by the SB Sheriff's Dept. In this course they emphasized that YES! you must have the permit on your persons WHENEVER you are carrying. I also signed an additional document outlining the conditions of having a CCW that mentions this explicitly.
Q: Must apply in Person? A: Yes, this is a requirement. A face to face interview with the Sheriff or the issuing Deputy that is representing the Sheriff is required. It was for me, non-confrontational and used to clarify and verify information in the paperwork.
Q: Cost for Permit? A: Two parts, $73.00 for the DOJ (Department of Justice) background check, and $112 to the issuing Sheriff's Dept. Both had to be cashier's checks or money orders. Renewal costs DOJ $25.00, Sheriff's Dept. $24.00. Also, the CCW course (required) was I think $75.00, for both first time and renewal.
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