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Old 09-08-2004, 01:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by seretogis
As much as you may detest the "flip flop bullshit" it is one of Kerry's weaknesses and will be mentioned time and time again because it is a serious issue. It is easy to tell where Bush stands on issues -- he makes a decision and sticks to it. He has yet to flip-flop on Iraq or Afghanistan. He has yet to flip-flop on gay marriage (as inappropriate as the issue is for Federal government to be involved in) or gun control. Undecided voters should be very wary of voting for Kerry because he seemingly stands for nothing -- he clearly has no moral or value system which he uses to make policy decisions since he changes his mind so often. For someone that values freedom above all else (neither candidate in this case), it is easy to stick to your guns on social issues. For someone who doesn't know what to think or what the people want, such decisions would be more difficult.
So you're saying the points mentioned in this post are lies or items taken out of context?

Gay marriage and Iraq are mentioned.

Anyway, I'm not really debating Kerry vs Bush, but instead pointing out that it's just pointless to call him a flip flopper when Bush does the same.

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Changing your mind is fine. Changing your mind day by day based on what sounds good to who you are talking to is pandering, not leadership.
That sounds more like an extreme exaggeration than something that actually happened. Did he word the same thing differently? Did he give a different perspective on a problem that could have many solutions? Did anyone actually take into account the entire context of what he was saying, or did they take a snippet of something he said and give a broad accusation? I really find it hard to believe that someone would actually change their stance on issues day-by-day.
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