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Stompy · 09-08-2004, 09:06 AM

This very trendy and cliche term is often used by people who are against Kerry to describe his position on issues or his strength as a solid leader (or lack thereof).

To get to the point - this is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. You can't expect to make a cogent statement or argument against a candidate using that particular quality if the candidate YOU SUPPORT shares it as well.

A lot of Bush supporters use this. We all know Bush has changed his mind on many occasions, so really, if you feel Kerry isn't a strong leader because of "flip flopping", then how could you feel the opposite about Bush? You can't be against one candidate doing it but for the other.

Are people uninformed, do they just choose not to believe it, or are there valid excuses and reasons for their candidate's change-of-heart? It just doesn't make any sense and gets very annoying when trying to hold an actual intelligent discussion with someone and they bust out with that tactic as if it's supposed to give them some advantage in what they're trying to explain.

Am I mistaken? Can someone name one president who, in either their office as president, senator, or otherwise, never changed their mind on an issue?

[edited for clarification]

09-08-2004, 09:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	This "flip flop" BS is annoying. This very trendy and cliche term is often used by people who are against Kerry to describe his position on issues or his strength as a solid leader (or lack thereof). To get to the point - this is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. You can't expect to make a cogent statement or argument against a candidate using that particular quality if the candidate YOU SUPPORT shares it as well. A lot of Bush supporters use this. We all know Bush has changed his mind on many occasions, so really, if you feel Kerry isn't a strong leader because of "flip flopping", then how could you feel the opposite about Bush? You can't be against one candidate doing it but for the other. Are people uninformed, do they just choose not to believe it, or are there valid excuses and reasons for their candidate's change-of-heart? It just doesn't make any sense and gets very annoying when trying to hold an actual intelligent discussion with someone and they bust out with that tactic as if it's supposed to give them some advantage in what they're trying to explain. Am I mistaken? Can someone name one president who, in either their office as president, senator, or otherwise, never changed their mind on an issue? [edited for clarification] __________________ I love lamp. Last edited by Stompy; 09-08-2004 at 09:22 AM..