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Originally Posted by MooseMan3000
Have you considered that you might need prerequisites for the classes you need for a license? That maybe, just maybe, they know what classes you need to GET those classes? I might be completely off base here, but it sounds like you haven't done a lot of research YOURSELF, and you're getting mad because you don't actually KNOW what you need. "He told me this" and "they said that" and "but someone else says something else." Have you tried looking into getting a license yourself?
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No, as for the prereq's, the classes build off themselves.I did check on that before my rant. I honestly could have taken JUST addiction courses and gotten liscensed without having to take anything else.
As for a catalog, there are only 2 schools in the state that even offer this degree. NC State and Akron. The catalog at Akron touches on the subject but doesn't go into depth as it is part of their "Tech School Summit College". Which just changed names this semester and did not have a catalog of it's own.
I did look into it before I even went to school. The problem being, and I am sure this is probably the problem at AKRON (HOWEVER, they should train their advisors to know the new regs.)... Ohio just went to a liscensure program. It was based on a certificate where they had 3 different levels.
Level I was basic and just needed some classes and 6 months hands on experience, and you just basically did intake and could not make any assessment of anyone. Classes offered at colleges could reduce your hands on hours.
Level II was a completion of level I, more hands on hours, a bachelor's degree (preferably a Master's) was recommended but not required and would only reduce the needed hands on hours and you could practice as a counsellor but had to be supervised by a DR.
Level III required the completion of the first 2 levels and basically was an add on for a DR.
Now, the beginning of this year that all changed, to where now you need 270 hours of addiction studies. No other degree or classes are necessary. 270 hours tho are not class hours, like my Intro class represents 24 hours towards that 270.
All I am saying is a college (especially when it is only 1 of 2 that teach the subject) should know what the regs are. Especially if the regs and requirements have changed.
To me what it seems like is U of Akron did not listen to what I wanted or did not understand and told me to do something that will take more time and cost me more money. In the long run their plan will help me, as I will have a Master's, however, I could have been liscensed by next year and working on my cert. as a gambling counsellor.
What I believe is going on is that noone has trained the Advisors what the new processes are and therefore they are still directing people to get the degree. Which a degree is a great thing to have, BUT as it is their profession they should know what the requirements are. Because I could get a Doctorate but I would still have to accomplish the 270 hours of addiction studies that someone without any degree needs to.
I feel if I pay someone for a service (such as a college) they should know better than I do what needs to happen OR they should provide info. That is what they are paid for.
Akron is a good school but they just had a few million dollars worth of construction, their 2 year college is treated like a bald headed stepchild. The 2 year portion is not being satellited off to become Summit College instead of Univ. Of Akron Community and Tech school. The VP and several other higher ups last Spring were caught with thier hands in the pie when the state did an Audit and found they recieved kickbacks for the construction and computer equipment used. They are facing a severe decline in attendence. So Akron is having quite a few problems.
The only reason I chose them is because the other school teaching Addiction Services is 2 hours away.
Yes, I am an adult and YES I should have studied and checked on the new regs before I went to school (even though last year when I had gone to the Stark County Board of Addiction Services, they themselves weren't sure what the new credentialing was going to be like). I also chose to believe that those who are paid to know more than I do and who are paid to help students would know better what my options were and would steer me in the best possible manner FOR ME not what would make the school more money. I WAS WRONG. Yes, their way in 5 years I have an MSW but no Addictions degree and I'd have to spend more time getting it, would look better. HOWEVER, financially to me, the options should have at least been given to me to take the addictions courses get Liscensed, get a job THEN continue to get the Master's.