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Originally Posted by xepherys
Hopefully this is the right forum for this (it IS about how we get along in society)...
Why is it that the idea of prejudice against a majority is non-existant? Why can you have an all black college, but not an all white college? Why can you offer scholarships ONLY to blacks, hispanics and native americans, but not ONLY to white, middle-class males? It's very hypocrtical, very much against the foundation of our country (in the USA at least) and quite counter-productive in our day and time.
Argument #1: Our country was founded on freedom and liberty. If I want to start a higher education facility for white males, aged 18-25 whose household income is $75,000-150,000 exculsively, than it should be my legal and moral right to do so. (No, I don't want to)
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Go right ahead. Just don't expect anyone to hire anyone who graduated from that college. Don't expect any federal funding or support from the college board or similar institutions either. And rightly so.
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Argument #2: The same goes for business. If I were a small business owner, something like Affirmative Action would REALLY piss me off. Even as a non-business owner it still upsets me. Even many black activist/rights groups denounce this measure. In the long run, it can help, in some cross-sections of the country, to breed new racism (people don't like other groups of people who are assured special treatment under the law).
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The average black man will never make as much as the average white man until average white men are forced to hire them and pay them as much as they pay themselves.
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Argument #3: Native Americans? I'm about 1/16th Native... not much by any thought. Regardless I don't get the whole casinos, preservations, hunting/fishing license, college money aspect of this. They were, just like any other through history, a conquered people. They were conquered through trickery, slaughter and warfare... isn't that how ANY conquered people gets to be that way? I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's how the world turns. Should the Egyptians have given free money to the Jews? Do you think the Spanish sent their conquered peoples to the local universities? Come on!!!
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Although I have no idea what your argument here is, I will say that ignoring the conquered is the biggest mistake you can make.
When the Roman empire was half the world, every part of the empire was equal. Most people probably didn't notice the difference (except perhaps religious belief enforcement.) That empire lasted a long time.
After world war I, germany was ignored and punished greatly creating mass poverty... hence:
World war II. After this war, through the marshall plan, the US spent billions of dollars to rebuild europe. Now germany is one of our closest allies. (Same thing with Japan).
[quote]Argument #4: You could have a black, female only scholarship fund and you'd do just fine. If you started a white, male only fund, you'd likely be sued, protested and threatened.[/quore]
But to no end. There's plenty of scholarships that will only ever go to a white person until major changes occur. Corporations that give scholarship to the managers' or vice presidents' sons and daughters will go to perhaps 1 or 2 black children every 10 years. White people OWN this world.
Blacks and other minorities can have their little scholarships and television channels. Who do you think gave it to them? Other blacks? The people in charge (rich white men) gave it to them. They encourage things like BET and rap music that segregate the country and keep black youths thinking that reading isn't cool.
I used to agree with you that these things weren't fair to white people. Now I couldn't agree with you more when you say they shouldn't exist. But don't delude yourself in to thinking that it helps black americans. It helps the people who made it so: white americans.
FYI: I'm white, male, 20, and from the lower middle class of a suburb of Philadelphia. My views changed when I read this:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...68634?v=glance