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Old 08-11-2004, 05:40 PM   #29 (permalink)
orphen
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Originally posted by wilbjammin
Yes, I am just pointing out that Kierkegaard was tormented by his beliefs, and one might keep that in mind if they are going to champion his views.

However, I would much prefer discussing these issues with someone who agrees with Kierkegaard and admits to the absurdity of religion than with someone who doesn't see the absurdity. That, at least, provides us with something of a common ground and the possibility of an open conversation.
as much as Kierkegaard points out the absurdity of religion, in creating authentic characters, he also points out the difficulty of being a "true" knight of faith. he admits that he himself could never achieve that. thus leads to the point of Halx's. I believe religion and faith are two very different things at times. In my opinion/perception of the authentic knight of faith, i do not believe most modern christians have the capacity or even understand the passion required to be a "authentic christian". To be a christian who follows rules and goes to church i believe can be defined as the "ethical" not "religious". to be the "religious" , as i interpretted from Kierkegaard, is a quite difficult path. You have to be like Abraham and kill your own son regardless of moral opinion. you defy moral, laws and ultimately logic for your god. this is demonstrated through Kierkegaard points out the path to being the knight of faith requires one to first become the knight of infinite resolution for one needs to give up all hope of ever recieveing the "award" in the secular sense. Just a parallelism i'd like to point out, Nietzsche in his "the will to power" also points out the important stages one must go through to become a ubermanchen much like Kierkegaard's. One might point out that Nietzche is an athiest existantialist while Kierkegaard counts as a theologian. but ultimately, i believe the two resonate in their struggle against Nihilism. going through the stage of the donkey, to the lion, to the baby much like from the asthic, ethical, to the religious. This struggle is with oneself and ultimately the hardest struggle an intellectual will face. personally, i was quite a platonist for the longest time. i loved literature like Echer Godel and Bach. things that dealt with order. But my humantities teacher just HAD to shut me down with existantialism.. now i have to struggle everyday in my decision to not fall into a nihilistic cycle *sigh.. that's alot of trouble* . In conclusion my head hurts
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