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Old 07-28-2004, 08:28 AM   #14 (permalink)
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mashup is the switching of vocal and instrumental tracks, as i understand it. bastard pop seems a synonym.
at first, it was mostly about beat matching--and of course reframing both elements (vocals, instrumentals). one of the earlier examples i can remember involved madonna and sonic youth...danger mouse's thing using jz and the beatles (from about 6 months ago) was more about looping and independent production---so the instrumental segments that are used are getting shorter and the producers more aggressive, its still a mashup.

collages are different in that continuity is not kept across the elements, and something different is made from juxtapositions. the old school precursors are almost all collage, some closer to mashup than others.

there are groups that work in between--people like us (vicki bennet) for example.

the remix thing comes out of dub. same instrumental as the track that included vocals--as jwoody said above--reggae tunes would be recorded with a house band doing well-known rhythms in one session---the vocals (usually a trio in the day) were record at a seperate time. the vocals would be done around the rhythm, but without necessarily hearing the exact backing track. producers starting with folk like lee perry, king tubby, niney the observer, etc. started issuing the dubtracks as seperate things. dick hebdige's book "cut-n-mix" is good on this.

ps--if you wouldnt mind, jwoody, please bounce along a version of your track to me as well. i'd be interested in hearing it. thanks....
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