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Old 07-28-2004, 06:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
asaris
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Thanks to the filthy godless heathen for finding the passages

I don't quite follow exactly what you're saying, Rand, but I'll try to respond. Since our present views have evolved from two sources; namely scripture and the Catholic church, I would consider what we view as being involved in marriage in essence the same as what the New Testament assumes by marriage.
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