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Old 05-06-2003, 10:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
Sun Tzu
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Skettios I hear you and don’t disagree with you, this is where my I’ve come. When I see a pile of dead baby corpses and other things that my words cant describe the perspective for me changes. I may believe it’s the right position, but I’ll never deny that its only my opinion and understand that’s what most if not all will take it as. A majority of the different views on here all make sense to me, hearing feedback from members of the forum has been valuable in helping me to see different things in different ways.

I certainly don’t post here with a “hey this is my view, this is why I’m right, if you disagree this is why your wrong” attitude.

With much respect to what you stated my thought it very simple: Getting rid of a horrible man that was not going to go away on his own.


guthmund, it’s a valid question and an understandable standpoint. Especially if you read some of my posts from the previous TFP; I was using the name Solaradz---. Conspiracy theorist that thought the conservatives were only in it to make money, and the democrats were trying to communize us by what he’s stating in his posts---. When Iraq began to flare up I had nothing good to say about the current administration’s foreign policy, but then again I really didn’t have anything good to say about anything or anyone in present or past leadership roles. From seeing the unfolding from making statements from under my tin foil hat to sending the president an apology in such a short amount of time I relate to where you’re coming from.

Honor and integrity aren’t corny words to me. I still falter from time to time, (usually humor at someone else’s expense and things where I’m the only one laughing. The intervals between are getting wider. I made an agreement which was posted on the forum before that if the intentions of President Bush were shown different from what I was claiming I would send him a formal apology and admit my mistake to the forum. The video itself wasn’t the only element that guided my conclusion and action. Through different experiences I’ve just been growing in different directions. (The day I stop growing is the day I start decaying) A few months ago I may have not even created this thread. I may have continuously thrown a repetitive commentary laced with sarcasm in asking “So where are the WMD?” “Where are they?” “I told you” A few months ago I may have may remarks such as those even after seeing the video. That was yesterday. The person I made the agreement too hasn’t been here, so I could have just slipped silently in the cracks especially with a new name, but I’d been lying to myself. As I've stated in other threads I feel being true to myself, striving for honor are the only gifts that mean anything that I can give to myself in this life.

I had mentioned in the past forum that I would not bash the president any more after seeing the Iraqis jumping in the street with joy. So my shift began there. (To save those that want to tell me there is also protesting going on- I know; that’s another thread, that the statue is a staged event with only a small number of. . . .I read the site you don’t have to tell me) I hope that answers the question of my shift and the correlation of the video.

To answer the other question; “Should we police every else’s problems?” guthmund that very thought is on my mind frequently and perhaps in past deductions I've overlooked the counsel a president gets day to day on issues. While it seems President Bush makes decisions stemming from his own judgment, I'm sure during important foreign policy issues he’s surrounded with suggestions and feedback covering the entire spectrum. IMO having a bunch of yes-men would not be the optimal direction, but ideas ranging from concurrent to open disagreement and action in the opposite direction. Each of these different positions supported with founded reasons why. That is what I hope happens behind closed doors.

In asking should we wage war till we right all the wrongs; I'm unclear on whether you’re stating what I think the present administration should do or what I would do if I were president. In either case its complex; as you probably know. I could write 4 to pages which almost did because in touching one level of this I feel I'd have to touch al levels; it goes deep.

I'll give you a simple answer to keep it short, but understand I’m only on the surface. IMO if innocent men, women, and children are being destroyed I have a problem with it. There are a few areas of the world I think we should be doing more about, but that’s my opinion. I hope that if open massacres were occurring, someone would do something. I would have a hard time relaxing and feeling right if I was complacent about human suffering.

In reference to other hotspots if what I saw in that documentary was happening presently in places such as N Korea, Iran, Syria then yes, I personally would give the order. I say this with respecting that I know it’s not as easy as 1 2 3 and becomes even more complicated when talking about Russia and China.

I hope that gives some what of an idea of where I’m coming from and that mistakes are minimal, I’m nodding at the monitor. Thank god for spell check
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