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Originally posted by CheesePizzaMan
I'm not sure what you're trying to point out-- so he doesn't get to come in in a save situation, then he doesn't come in. WTF does that have to do with anything--he can't blow the save if he's not in the game! Its about consecutive saves--not how many opportunities for saves that he gets! If he gives up runs, but gets run support, he can still get the save. If he comes in with a 2 run lead vs. a 1 run lead, its a lot easier on him. I am not sure that you understand that the Gagne hype is based upon not fucking up--it isn't just how many save opportunities he can get in a year--Keith Foulke with Oakland last year did a great job there, and he wasn't as amazing as Gagne for the simple fact that he fucked up every once in a while--when Gagne fucked up, they got the runs to help him out!
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What I'm asking is, what does the fact that he plays on a poor hitting team have to do with how good he is?
A save situation is a save situation. Whether he's on the Yankees or the Devil Rays, he would still only come in during a save situation. Now having poor defense might make more of a difference than a poor hitting team. Also as a closer, I'm not sure if he really pitched more than one inning. In those cases I don't see how run support means anything since, he's called upon to come in and get 3 outs before blowing the lead.