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Stompy · 05-27-2004, 05:15 AM

I won't pretend to be an avid fan of punk, because I'm really not. I do, however, appreciate what the genre has introduced and the scene it created.

The thing here is... this author is trying to convince people that Avril Lavigne ISN'T bad when she really is. See, it's not just a preference of music thing or a generation gap.

There's a reason why people glare at you if you speak positively of her just like there's a reason people would glare at you if you praised Milli Vanilli or Vanilla Ice.

It's mass marketed junk. It's "business music" that exists purely to make money. It's not music made for the purpose of being creative, it's music that's made to cater to the likes of millions of people to see who could buy the most.. and nothing more. I know people might not like that opinion, but it's true.

...and this author tries to classify her as PUNK of all things? Isn't this a big part of what punk was against? If she was going against the grain, then perhaps you could say she has punk-like qualities, but in an industry where shit is churned out left and right to make a quick buck then forgotten about 10 years down the road... to classify it as anything other than "crappy money generating music" would be inappropriate.

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What's sad is the fact that our culture is actually encouraging this type of shit. Look at American Idol. People will argue, "Yeah, but those people can really sing!"... well, of course. They went through a process of elimination, but it doesn't mean the music is good and it CERTAINLY doesn't mean there isn't anyone better out there. They only screen the slightest fraction of people from each city, so if they find someone who can sing, it's not saying much.

05-27-2004, 05:15 AM	#20 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	I won't pretend to be an avid fan of punk, because I'm really not. I do, however, appreciate what the genre has introduced and the scene it created. The thing here is... this author is trying to convince people that Avril Lavigne ISN'T bad when she really is. See, it's not just a preference of music thing or a generation gap. There's a reason why people glare at you if you speak positively of her just like there's a reason people would glare at you if you praised Milli Vanilli or Vanilla Ice. It's mass marketed junk. It's "business music" that exists purely to make money. It's not music made for the purpose of being creative, it's music that's made to cater to the likes of millions of people to see who could buy the most.. and nothing more. I know people might not like that opinion, but it's true. ...and this author tries to classify her as PUNK of all things? Isn't this a big part of what punk was against? If she was going against the grain, then perhaps you could say she has punk-like qualities, but in an industry where shit is churned out left and right to make a quick buck then forgotten about 10 years down the road... to classify it as anything other than "crappy money generating music" would be inappropriate. [edit] What's sad is the fact that our culture is actually encouraging this type of shit. Look at American Idol. People will argue, "Yeah, but those people can really sing!"... well, of course. They went through a process of elimination, but it doesn't mean the music is good and it CERTAINLY doesn't mean there isn't anyone better out there. They only screen the slightest fraction of people from each city, so if they find someone who can sing, it's not saying much. __________________ I love lamp. Last edited by Stompy; 05-27-2004 at 05:24 AM..