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Originally posted by Strange Famous
And the choice is pretty stark,,, either people are free to make love and reproduce, or you have state sponsored sterilisation, that is the choice - that is the reality, mass sterlisation of the socially disadvantaged, or a social welfare system.
The tax argument is illogical to me, I think many people dont understand... the purpose of tax is the redistribution of wealth, the purpose of tax is to take from the rich and give to the poor... social services is the means of taxastion, not the end of it.
We have tax to take money that the rich exploit and return it to the working class people.
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Maybe it's just me but I think you're missing some of the important points of this ruling. First I do agree with you that the state has no right to tell this couple that they can no longer have children. But that's not what the ruling says. The ruling says that the couple should not have anymore children until their current children are out of foster care, meaning that they can take care of these children themselves. Now whether or not this couple attempts to change their lifestyles toget their kids back, the choice is up to them.
Now say the ruling is reversed, and by chance this couple have another child, and it dies at birth or shortly after birth or maybe even before birth, shouldn't they be charged with premeditated murder since they have been told that what they are doing to their bodies can't possibly be good for their "unborn" child? Threr should be no room for ignorance here, not after the media the fact that this whole ruling has been blown out of portions.
And just one more thing, you comment about taxation...Maybe in England, taxation take back from the rich and distributed to the masses, but in the US, it doesn't work that way. There's a good reason why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, it because of rich republican law makers making laws that mostly benefits themselves so that everyone else can't help but get screwed by these assholes. I'm not one for tax cut, I would like more taxes, and have that money be spent properly on education, healthcare and other things are actually do matter to common people like myself. Never the less, I fail to see how any of these chages will occur in my life time.