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yournamehere · 04-01-2004, 01:49 PM

QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
I give up.[/QUOTE]

First of all, Mr M, don't take it personally - I'm not calling you a liar or anything - I'm also not saying it is absolutely positively a fake - I just noticed some glaring inconsistencies in the editing. Sheesh - I thought the purpose of a dicussion board was to discuss things. Would you prefer 40 posts all saying "^What he said^" and "Word, dude"?
And this is getting a high post count rather quickly - the sign of a good thread.

However - you must not have read everything I wrote, so I'll quote it again:
Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
Just tell me WHY you think it's staged?
what happened to the guys who were sitting around earlier? Were they told to "Go hide around the corner while we crush your car"? . . . the "looters" disappeared right around the time the car made its first appearance..

You don't think it's actually POSSIBLE that some GI's did something wrong? GASP, HORROR, SHOCK...

so I'm willing to believe it may have happened. And by no means do I think our soldiers are incapable of doing that to an Iraqi's car.

You think it's fake because the video was edited?

I still think there's too much editing for it to be a real time video of an event - too many camera angles happening for it to be a war zone camera crew

What I'm confused at is why you AUTOMATICALLY think it's fake when it's produced by probably the most respected news team in the US, is actually being discussed at the most senior levels of your government, obviously was filmed in Iraq, obviously uses real military equipment, doesn't seem to use actors...
Because we know "our boys" couldn't do anything bad like that, right?

Again - "And by no means do I think our soldiers are incapable of doing that to an Iraqi's car."

You know - for someone accusing me of not having my eyes open, you sure accept a lot as fact
It's being discussed in government because reporters brought it up. From what I read, the government is "looking into it." That's a far cry from an admission.
As far as it being filmed in Iraq - why is that "obvious'? Sure - it probably was, but then again . . . Same for it not being actors
I could have filmed that in Mexico for a few thousand dollars. That doesn't mean I believe it was - i'm just saying it is one of many possibilities.

And, for the record, I did not AUTOMATICALLY think it was a fake - the discrepancies I've mentioned didn't become apparant until after the first few times I watched the video.

So the difference, I guess, is that you believe from the giddyup that PBS would not lie to you.

I believe, on the other hand, that the video looks a little fishy, which makes me - at the very least - question its absolute objectivity.

I'm perfectly willing to accept that this video might be real - I can't understand why so many of you can't accept the possibility that it's not.

04-01-2004, 01:49 PM	#32 (permalink)
yournamehere Invisible Location: tentative, at best	QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr Mephisto I give up.[/QUOTE] First of all, <b>Mr M</b>, don't take it personally - I'm not calling you a liar or anything - I'm also not saying it is absolutely positively a fake - I just noticed some glaring inconsistencies in the editing. Sheesh - I thought the purpose of a dicussion board was to discuss things. Would you prefer 40 posts all saying "^What he said^" and "Word, dude"? And this is getting a high post count rather quickly - the sign of a good thread. However - you must not have read everything I wrote, so I'll quote it again: Originally posted by Mr Mephisto Just tell me WHY you think it's staged? <b>what happened to the guys who were sitting around earlier? Were they told to "Go hide around the corner while we crush your car"? . . . the "looters" disappeared right around the time the car made its first appearance..</b> <i>You don't think it's actually POSSIBLE that some GI's did something wrong? GASP, HORROR, SHOCK...</i> <b>so I'm willing to believe it may have happened. And by no means do I think our soldiers are incapable of doing that to an Iraqi's car.</b> <i>You think it's fake because the video was edited?</i> <b>I still think there's too much editing for it to be a real time video of an event - too many camera angles happening for it to be a war zone camera crew</b> <i>What I'm confused at is why you AUTOMATICALLY think it's fake when it's produced by probably the most respected news team in the US, is actually being discussed at the most senior levels of your government, obviously was filmed in Iraq, obviously uses real military equipment, doesn't seem to use actors... Because we know "our boys" couldn't do anything bad like that, right?</i> Again - <b>"And by no means do I think our soldiers are incapable of doing that to an Iraqi's car."</b> You know - for someone accusing me of not having my eyes open, you sure accept a lot as fact It's being discussed in government because reporters brought it up. From what I read, the government is "looking into it." That's a far cry from an admission. As far as it being filmed in Iraq - why is that "obvious'? Sure - it probably was, but then again . . . Same for it not being actors I could have filmed that in Mexico for a few thousand dollars. That doesn't mean I believe it was - i'm just saying it is one of many possibilities. And, for the record, I did not AUTOMATICALLY think it was a fake - the discrepancies I've mentioned didn't become apparant until after the first few times I watched the video. So the difference, I guess, is that you believe from the giddyup that PBS would not lie to you. I believe, on the other hand, that the video looks a little fishy, which makes me - at the very least - question its absolute objectivity. I'm perfectly willing to accept that this video might be real - I can't understand why so many of you can't accept the <i>possibility</i> that it's not. __________________ If you want to avoid 95% of internet spelling errors: "If your ridiculous pants are too loose, you're definitely going to lose them. Tell your two loser friends over there that they're going to lose theirs, too." It won't hurt your fashion sense, either.