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pan6467 · 03-16-2004, 07:59 PM

One you can be liberal AND patriotic willing to serve the military. I am proof of that.

I can name the bills that Teddy wrote that would be considered liberal now. I can point to the fact that he was a "progressive" which at the time meant socially liberal. I can name books, articles and as I said bills he introduced. Militarily he wasn't a warhawk he was more of an isolationist.

As for the first post you pointed to as me being hateful, it was a rebuttal to your article attacking 2 WAR HEROES that just happened to be on the wrong side of the political fence as you. ( http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...147#post996147 )

But I can see how my questioning of the GOP's supposed love for those who serve does not apply to those who are of a different political ideology. Or that they can't face up to the fact they are closing Veteran's hospitals and denying legitimate in the contract benefits to veterans. The GOP doesn't want to face those substantiated FACTS and claim those are attacks. How did Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly or even Bush for that matter serve in VietNam? Yet they want to disgrace 2 medal honored veterans who went to VietNam when they chose not to? Seems to me they are trying to create problems of which they know nothing about having not been there and dodging the draft or taking ways out that are far less honorable than anything those 2 did while over there.

The second was to point out, how truly twofaced the GOP are. They are acting like VietNam was some great war and that the war we are in is some great project. YET, as I pointed out Bush has to change the reason every 4 months. That's the BIG LIE, because Bush will never come clean with the truth as to why we are in Iraq. We have 1000's of men laying their lives on the line 24/7 while Bush sits secure and he can't even do the honorable thing and tell the truth as to why we are there. Those men and women are to serve blindly, for what reason?
( http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...35#post1009735 )

AND BY THE WAY THE THREAD BELOW THE ONE YOU POINT OUT STATED THAT I WROTE THAT IN SOME JEST WHILE TRYING TO GET A POINT ACROSS.

So don't sit all pious on me. Those posts came with facts, iron clad facts that cannot, (well with Bush's administration they can spin anything), be disputed.

03-16-2004, 07:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	One you can be liberal AND patriotic willing to serve the military. I am proof of that. I can name the bills that Teddy wrote that would be considered liberal now. I can point to the fact that he was a "progressive" which at the time meant socially liberal. I can name books, articles and as I said bills he introduced. Militarily he wasn't a warhawk he was more of an isolationist. As for the first post you pointed to as me being hateful, it was a rebuttal to your article attacking 2 WAR HEROES that just happened to be on the wrong side of the political fence as you. ( http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...147#post996147 ) But I can see how my questioning of the GOP's supposed love for those who serve does not apply to those who are of a different political ideology. Or that they can't face up to the fact they are closing Veteran's hospitals and denying legitimate in the contract benefits to veterans. The GOP doesn't want to face those substantiated FACTS and claim those are attacks. How did Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly or even Bush for that matter serve in VietNam? Yet they want to disgrace 2 medal honored veterans who went to VietNam when they chose not to? Seems to me they are trying to create problems of which they know nothing about having not been there and dodging the draft or taking ways out that are far less honorable than anything those 2 did while over there. The second was to point out, how truly twofaced the GOP are. They are acting like VietNam was some great war and that the war we are in is some great project. YET, as I pointed out Bush has to change the reason every 4 months. That's the BIG LIE, because Bush will never come clean with the truth as to why we are in Iraq. We have 1000's of men laying their lives on the line 24/7 while Bush sits secure and he can't even do the honorable thing and tell the truth as to why we are there. Those men and women are to serve blindly, for what reason? ( http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...35#post1009735 ) AND BY THE WAY THE THREAD BELOW THE ONE YOU POINT OUT STATED THAT I WROTE THAT IN SOME JEST WHILE TRYING TO GET A POINT ACROSS. So don't sit all pious on me. Those posts came with facts, iron clad facts that cannot, (well with Bush's administration they can spin anything), be disputed. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"