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Old 03-03-2004, 10:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights
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Originally posted by Psivage
There will always be bullies, no matter what people do, it is human nature to pick on the weak.
So, do we not, at some point expect the weak to lash back?

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Originally posted by Pragma
It angers me even more that the wrong people get the blame (such as the guy's kid in one of the letters who was beat up).
This has happened to my own daughter. She was being harrased, in English class, by a teenage "gangsta". To the point where it became physical, and sexual. (he was grabbing her breasts) She reported the incidents, and was subsequently moved to another class, halfway through the semester. It was easier for the administration to deal with her than it was to deal with the actual problem. In essence, they are are afraid of the gangsters, and refuse to deal with it.

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Originally posted by wrkime
Part of the problem with these bullies lays squarely on the shoulders of the parents of the bullies and part of the responsibility lays on the shoulders of the school.
Agreed! But, that ain't happenin'. The parents of these little hooligans are either non-existant, gangsters themselves or in self-denial. As far as theschool systems go, I firmly believe that they are, in a lot of cases, physicaly afraid to take action, for fear of retribution. It's much easier, and safer, to take action detrimental to the actual victim.

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Originally posted by krwlz
One way to deal with bullys... Make it not worth their time. Hit em back....
Ah...there's the rub. They are hitting 'em back. I firmly beleive that's what Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did. They hit 'em back...in the only way that they could. I would bet you dollars to donuts that the school watched as these two got the snot beat out of 'em, all the way up from grade school, and did not do a damn thing to intervene. Then we act all so shocked when they lashed out in complete frustration and dispair.

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Originally posted by mystmarimatt
In some ways, just going to the system, getting help and watching your victimizer be ripped apart and torn down by the system can be vindication enough, I've seen it happen. It's a much more sinister, emotionally satisfying victory.
You've seen it happen. I'm glad. I'm not being sarcastic here, I truly am glad. I have not seen it. The system is a complete, total miserable failure. First the 'victim' is beaten by the bully, then the victim is beaten yet again...by the very system that should be there to at least provide support, if not protection.
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