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Digilogic · 06-19-2005, 09:12 PM

My first handgun was a beretta 92FS and I am considering getting a 1911. Anybody have one that can give me some pros/cons about it. Also what is a good manufacturer?

kinsaj · 06-19-2005, 09:51 PM

1911- its great
reliable
good caliber
lots of parts available

only downside is that its a tad big... but im sure ur used to that w/ ur beretta

manufacturer-wise... most should be decent. If you want soemthing special, look at some of the Kimber's and Springfield Armory ones. Though, I'm not THAT positive on brands.

If you are at all interested in how the thing works and are willing to spend some money, I strongly recomend building your own. Whether ur actually doing any manufacturing or just fitting.

ziadel · 06-19-2005, 10:08 PM

heres the dilly.

compared to your 92, the grip on the 1911 is dainty... a arched mainspring housing (my preference) will fill up the hand more if the 92 fits your hand well.

the only con that I have about the 1911 is the (relatively) limited capacity. *shrug* hasn't bothered me enough to start carrying anything else tho, and even with that limitation its still considered by many to be the quintessential fighting pistol.

as for brands, springfield is the best bang for the buck, Stay away from Kimbers with external extractors (almost all of them). Colt is overpriced. Everything else is prety much good.

I use Springfields. They're reasonably priced, carry a lifetime warranty, are accurate and extremely reliable.

cj2112 · 06-19-2005, 10:10 PM

Kimber makes a pretty decent 1911 for an off the shelf gun, as well as Springfield Armory, and Colt. I just recently sold my Kimber (hated to sell it, but I needed the cash pretty bad), and would purchase another one in an instant. Magazines are where the majority of reliability problems are w/ this particular type of gun. Stick with Chip McCormick's Shooting Star Ind. magazines and you shouldn't have problems.
I would not attempt to build one from off the shelf parts until I had owned one, and decided that I liked it enough to commit that kind of investment into another one.
As far as the external extractor, it's really not an issue as long as your not shooting steel cased ammo (such as Wolf) through it or your not trying to feed ammo through the ejection port (I dunno why any body would do this)

Digilogic · 06-19-2005, 10:21 PM

I was looking at the users manual for the 1911 from springfield and it said not to load rounds directly into the chamber and allow the slide to slam shut. Is this the case on the beretta 92fs? I have done this in the past and I didn't realize it could be a problem. Unless someone says otherwise I am going to assume that it is ok.

cj2112 · 06-19-2005, 10:31 PM

While the manual for the 92fs doesn't specifically say not to do this, it does say that to load the chamber you should do so by inserting a loaded magazine and racking the slide. It's probably not a good habit to load rounds directly into the chamber and then let slide slam shut.

Digilogic · 06-19-2005, 10:34 PM

The reason I ask is that I was under the impression that allowing the slide to slam put the same stress on the gun as firing it. Is this not the case?

ziadel · 06-19-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Digilogic

The reason I ask is that I was under the impression that allowing the slide to slam put the same stress on the gun as firing it. Is this not the case?

Theres a lot of debate on wether or not allowing the slide to slam home on an empty chamber is bad for it. a LOT of debate. Sometimes I do it, other times I don't but I won't do it to someone elses gun.

According to springfield, both loading a round in the chamber (thats DEFINATELY bad) and slamming the slide home on an empty chamber are bad.

like I said, I only think that chambering a single round is definately bad.

I do know its ok to load a single round in the chamber with the external extractor...

Suave · 06-19-2005, 11:11 PM

It's lasted nearly 100 years with little in the way of revamping (until you go custom). That says something about it.

The only thing that would hold me back from getting one is that .45 is a relatively expensive pistol calibre to shoot.

Charger01 · 06-22-2005, 07:20 PM

I would wholeheartly endorse Springer GI .45's
I have shot Kimbers Colts (70-80 series), Para-Ords, STI, Norinco and the newer Smith and Wesson single stack .45's
The best pound-for-pound investment can be had with a Springfield Armory .45, no matter what flavor. For hi-capacity, I would pick a Para-Ord, because I have had equal reliability after a couple hundred rounds.

06-19-2005, 09:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Digilogic Crazy Location: Raleigh, NC	1911 opinions My first handgun was a beretta 92FS and I am considering getting a 1911. Anybody have one that can give me some pros/cons about it. Also what is a good manufacturer? __________________ "Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso

06-19-2005, 09:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
kinsaj Psycho Location: somewhere out there	1911- its great reliable good caliber lots of parts available only downside is that its a tad big... but im sure ur used to that w/ ur beretta manufacturer-wise... most should be decent. If you want soemthing special, look at some of the Kimber's and Springfield Armory ones. Though, I'm not THAT positive on brands. If you are at all interested in how the thing works and are willing to spend some money, I strongly recomend building your own. Whether ur actually doing any manufacturing or just fitting. __________________ boom

06-19-2005, 10:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	heres the dilly. compared to your 92, the grip on the 1911 is dainty... a arched mainspring housing (my preference) will fill up the hand more if the 92 fits your hand well. the only con that I have about the 1911 is the (relatively) limited capacity. shrug hasn't bothered me enough to start carrying anything else tho, and even with that limitation its still considered by many to be the quintessential fighting pistol. as for brands, springfield is the best bang for the buck, Stay away from Kimbers with external extractors (almost all of them). Colt is overpriced. Everything else is prety much good. I use Springfields. They're reasonably priced, carry a lifetime warranty, are accurate and extremely reliable. __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

06-19-2005, 10:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	Kimber makes a pretty decent 1911 for an off the shelf gun, as well as Springfield Armory, and Colt. I just recently sold my Kimber (hated to sell it, but I needed the cash pretty bad), and would purchase another one in an instant. Magazines are where the majority of reliability problems are w/ this particular type of gun. Stick with Chip McCormick's Shooting Star Ind. magazines and you shouldn't have problems. I would not attempt to build one from off the shelf parts until I had owned one, and decided that I liked it enough to commit that kind of investment into another one. As far as the external extractor, it's really not an issue as long as your not shooting steel cased ammo (such as Wolf) through it or your not trying to feed ammo through the ejection port (I dunno why any body would do this) Last edited by cj2112; 06-19-2005 at 10:13 PM..

06-19-2005, 10:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Digilogic Crazy Location: Raleigh, NC	I was looking at the users manual for the 1911 from springfield and it said not to load rounds directly into the chamber and allow the slide to slam shut. Is this the case on the beretta 92fs? I have done this in the past and I didn't realize it could be a problem. Unless someone says otherwise I am going to assume that it is ok. __________________ "Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso

06-19-2005, 10:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	While the manual for the 92fs doesn't specifically say not to do this, it does say that to load the chamber you should do so by inserting a loaded magazine and racking the slide. It's probably not a good habit to load rounds directly into the chamber and then let slide slam shut.

06-19-2005, 10:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Digilogic Crazy Location: Raleigh, NC	The reason I ask is that I was under the impression that allowing the slide to slam put the same stress on the gun as firing it. Is this not the case? __________________ "Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso

06-19-2005, 11:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Suave Twitterpated Location: My own little world (also Canada)	It's lasted nearly 100 years with little in the way of revamping (until you go custom). That says something about it. The only thing that would hold me back from getting one is that .45 is a relatively expensive pistol calibre to shoot. __________________ "Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." - Albert Einstein "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." - Plato

06-22-2005, 07:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
Charger01 Upright Location: Tacoma, WA	I would wholeheartly endorse Springer GI .45's I have shot Kimbers Colts (70-80 series), Para-Ords, STI, Norinco and the newer Smith and Wesson single stack .45's The best pound-for-pound investment can be had with a Springfield Armory .45, no matter what flavor. For hi-capacity, I would pick a Para-Ord, because I have had equal reliability after a couple hundred rounds. __________________ Other forums:IW.com Glocktalk