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Old 06-18-2005, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Town where everyone had a gun....true or false

I have been telling some friends that a town in Florida passed a law that
all of it's citizens were required to have some kind of gun in their home or
car. It was deemed an experiment to see what would happen and during
this time, the crime was at an all time low. Did I tell the truth or did I get
the story wrong? (Here in Houston, I read where we have reports of some
thugs stopping people in their cars and demanding the drivers to hand over
their money and other valuables or be shot. Other stories in the newspaper
report people have been robbed at their homes when they step out of their
cars in their driveways or garages.)


Two more questions: How much money did it cost you to take a handgun
Safety class and what does it cost to get a handgun license?
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Old 06-18-2005, 10:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The town was Kenneshaw, GA. Yes, a law was passed in the early 90s requiring each household to have a firearm; crime promptly dropped by a precipitous 85 percent. Wonder why that coulda been...

Handgun safety classes are usually pretty cheap through the NRA, although the VAST majority of handgun/gun safety can be covered in the following two rules:

1: ALL guns, unless they are in pieces, are loaded. PERIOD.
2: Never point a gun at anything you are not prepared to destroy. This include Bad Guys.

Depending upon where you live, a license for a handgun ( purchase ) is probably not needed. Here in my home state of NC, it is $5. If you mean a Concealed Carry Permit, it will probably cost around $200; this includes range time, classroom instruction, and your examination.
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Old 06-18-2005, 11:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The town was Kenneshaw, GA. Yes, a law was passed in the early 90s requiring each household to have a firearm; crime promptly dropped by a precipitous 85 percent. Wonder why that coulda been...

Handgun safety classes are usually pretty cheap through the NRA, although the VAST majority of handgun/gun safety can be covered in the following two rules:

1: ALL guns, unless they are in pieces, are loaded. PERIOD.
2: Never point a gun at anything you are not prepared to destroy. This include Bad Guys.

Depending upon where you live, a license for a handgun ( purchase ) is probably not needed. Here in my home state of NC, it is $5. If you mean a Concealed Carry Permit, it will probably cost around $200; this includes range time, classroom instruction, and your examination.
It's Kennesaw.

A lot more advanced than California, where you have to know the sheriff to get a CCP.
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Old 06-19-2005, 08:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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No purchase permit required here in oregon, just the 10 dollar fee for the instant background check that you pay for each gun you buy. If you want a CCW it's typically 25 bucks for the required class, in my county if your not a member of the gun club the gun club charges you 7 bucks for the range fees (you have to show proficiency w/ a handgun to pass the class in this county), and then it's 65 dollars for a new permit, 50 dollars for a renewal, and 15 dollars for a duplicate.

*edit* after doing some searching on the net, I found that it's going to cost you about 250 dollars for the class and the permit. Jim Pruett does it in your area, here's his website: http://www.jimpruett.net/texas_conce...asses_home.htm

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Old 06-22-2005, 06:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You guys get it cheap. Here, it's $125 for the class, plus $95 in money orders to various government money pits. There's only one type of pistol permit issued, and it alloows you to purchase pistols, purchase long arms without the 14-day waiting period, and carry a pistol on your person (must be concealed.)

I believe that Virign, Utah also requires everyone to own a gun, and UN and EPA personnel are considered persona non grata and will be escorted to the town line by police if found within city limits.
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I believe that Virign, Utah also requires everyone to own a gun, and UN and EPA personnel are considered persona non grata and will be escorted to the town line by police if found within city limits.
Sounds like these folks have got their heads on straight. I'm not a big fan of -making- someone keep a gun if they don't want to; just as I'm not a fan of -making- them give it up. However, they're certainly moving in the right direction.
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Old 06-23-2005, 09:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I believe that Virign, Utah also requires everyone to own a gun, and UN and EPA personnel are considered persona non grata and will be escorted to the town line by police if found within city limits.
*cough* bullshit *cough*

EPA region 8

In rural Washington, a CCP requires only 60 bones, an FBI background check and 30 days. In exchange, you get a gun lock and a couple of letters and brochures about self-defense and firearm safety.
I find this is a better resource.
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Just a side note, I lived in Kennesaw, GA for 5 years. Wonderful place to live.
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have a friend who lived in Sandcreek GA for about 10 years. When she moved there, she and her husband were informed that they were expected to buy a gun if they didn't have one already, and if there was a break-in they should still call the police.

But they expected everything to be taken care of when the police arrived.

She noted that no one ever had to lock up anything there...
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Old 06-26-2005, 04:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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*cough* bullshit *cough*

EPA region 8
http://www.billcarter.cc/UTAH2.html
Well, I did a bit of research. I remembered the environmental organization part and assumed it was EPA. It's actually the Grand Canyon Trust, the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance, and the Utah Wilderness Coalition that are banned. My statement that the town is a UN-free zone is correct.
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Old 06-30-2005, 05:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yea, Utah has some pretty lax laws on guns. I enjoy it quite a bit woprking for a classIII gun manufacturer. all i need is a nice little piece of paper from my boss that says i am a demonstrator and tester of weapons and i can lug around all his full-auto guns wherever I want.

Kinda nice to take out a full-auto uzi to the desert for some after dinner fun!


the dishes are done, man!
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Old 07-01-2005, 08:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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yea, Utah has some pretty lax laws on guns. I enjoy it quite a bit woprking for a classIII gun manufacturer. all i need is a nice little piece of paper from my boss that says i am a demonstrator and tester of weapons and i can lug around all his full-auto guns wherever I want.

Kinda nice to take out a full-auto uzi to the desert for some after dinner fun!


the dishes are done, man!
i envy you so bad! it's got to be a awesome job. what all do you guys make?
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Old 07-01-2005, 08:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
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peewee: where are you based.

I used to go out and shoot with some friends on the other side of Provo lake.

When the house fridge died we loggued it out there and tested it's resistance to bullets.
I'll tell you, the girls were the ones that got the biggest kick out of it. They were way more stoked than the guys.

Funny to watch.
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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We are based out in North Salt LAke by the refineries. Right now I am working on our HK variants. Ive also built UZI's and AK's

here is the site.

www.vectorarms.com
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Old 07-23-2005, 11:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
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in Indiana, there is no class, and I spent about $50 for the permit total with shipping and other stuff

Ohio, on the other hand, requires a course, which I saw running up to $150 and as little as $35 if you know someone who met someone who knew an NRA instructor who runs a class in the middle of no-where like I did
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Old 08-08-2005, 12:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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That is one strange story, because here it seems the opposite. People are incouraged not to have guns. And I am sure the classes must cost a arm and a leg.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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yea, but in canada there isnt the hostility being an american brings
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Old 08-10-2005, 09:51 AM   #18 (permalink)
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We are based out in North Salt LAke by the refineries. Right now I am working on our HK variants. Ive also built UZI's and AK's

here is the site.

www.vectorarms.com
You are a lucky man. I live in the wonderul Cali wannabe state of CT, whose legislature is most likely currently drafting a bill to ban all forms of fun within state lines. No AK-clones, no H&K semi-autos (although th eactual AK's and MP5, etc.are legal with NFA tax stamps.) I wouldn't put it past them to ban standrd capacity mags sometime after they get done debating the semantics of a ban on amalgum dental fillings (on CSPAN this morning.)
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Old 08-24-2005, 08:05 PM   #19 (permalink)
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In Alaska, not sure the price to get one, but if you get a CCP for say a .45, you can carry any caliber smaller as well.
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:57 PM   #20 (permalink)
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In Alaska, not sure the price to get one, but if you get a CCP for say a .45, you can carry any caliber smaller as well.
I thought that you did not need a CCP in Alaska...<goes to packing.org>
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:26 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I have a friend who lived in Sandcreek GA for about 10 years. When she moved there, she and her husband were informed that they were expected to buy a gun if they didn't have one already, and if there was a break-in they should still call the police.

But they expected everything to be taken care of when the police arrived.

She noted that no one ever had to lock up anything there...
More importantly...

... who's the artist for your avatar? Looks like Vargas girl.
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Old 09-21-2005, 05:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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In Alaska, not sure the price to get one, but if you get a CCP for say a .45, you can carry any caliber smaller as well.
This was repealed back in 2000. You can carry whatever you want now.
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