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NewBonk · 02-18-2005, 03:42 PM

Tazer has three 'civilian' models they are now advertising to the public. They're not cheap!

The police unions already are in a tizzy and the devices themselves are already illegal in a number of states.

http://www.officer.com/article/artic...&siteSection=1

I found it interesting that the law enforcement version shoots the barbs 21 feet and the civilian model does 15 feet. I guess I'll have to keep that in mind if a challenge a cop to a tazer duel.

The hand-wringing is somewhat amusing since obtaining a tazer is a brady-bill worshiper's wet dream. You have to submit yourself to a background check, including submitting your social security number and if you deploy the tazer, little discs with an ID number assigned to you get shot all over the place so the police can track you down if you leave the scene.

I'm interested in your opinions on this. Would you carry a tazer? I'm not sure I would ever deploy a weapon unless I was in fear of my life and then I'm not bringing a zapper to a lethal-force encounter.

Oh, they do have a guarantee that if you zap someone and leave the tazer behind so that you can run away, they'll replace the tazer for free

syquestrd270 · 02-18-2005, 05:12 PM

I think it's a retarded idea. They're potentially lethal and we're already seeing how the police look at it as equal to pepper spray and there's the potential for abuse. Use a gun or pepper spray. Lethal or non-lethal... there's no gray area.

MrTuffPaws · 02-18-2005, 08:55 PM

Amen to that. Though a tazer would be fun with noisy neighbors.

Nock nock
Can you trun it down please?
Fuck you
Pop, clack clack clack .......

im2smrt4u · 02-19-2005, 01:04 AM

Why are they worried about people using them against police? They are more expensive than real guns, so if someone is out to get a cop, they sure aren't going to buy a TASER!

daswig · 02-19-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NewBonk

I'm interested in your opinions on this. Would you carry a tazer? I'm not sure I would ever deploy a weapon unless I was in fear of my life and then I'm not bringing a zapper to a lethal-force encounter.

Never take a Taser to a gunfight. And ANYBODY who entrusts their life to a taser needs to die, if for no other reason than to keep the Gene Pool as unpolluted as possible.

Tasers. Feh. They make a good party game, but other than that? Feh.

userasdf1234 · 02-20-2005, 03:42 PM

I think they should keep tazers out of the general public. Check out what this guy did to his kid.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0126051stun1.html

Even though he got his kids to listen to him, its still messed up to do to a child

mazagmot · 02-20-2005, 03:49 PM

I wonder how long it will take someone to mod it to not shoot the little id discs. As soon as that happens, I'm going to pick one up, mod it, and live out my silent assassin fantasies that have been brought on by my years of playing ultra-violent video games.

daswig · 02-20-2005, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mazagmot

I wonder how long it will take someone to mod it to not shoot the little id discs. As soon as that happens, I'm going to pick one up, mod it, and live out my silent assassin fantasies that have been brought on by my years of playing ultra-violent video games.

why not just get a regular stun-gun and go at it? They're cheap.

/used to take my old issue stungun (Nova XR-5000, IIRC) to parties, and get the drunk and stoned hippies to shock themselves on purpose. MUCHO fun!!!

The_Dunedan · 02-20-2005, 11:54 PM

Daswig;
I guess great minds must think alike...I used to do the same thing, until someone dunked my stungun in a bown of PJ last year. I had pictures on my old computer, but lost 'em...drunken friends are a hoot!

daswig · 02-21-2005, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Dunedan

Daswig;
I guess great minds must think alike...I used to do the same thing, until someone dunked my stungun in a bown of PJ last year. I had pictures on my old computer, but lost 'em...drunken friends are a hoot!

Heh. I started doing that back in '87...it was a lot safer than handing out cans of mace to drunk people....

squirrelyburt · 02-21-2005, 09:35 PM

The arguments against Taser are the same stupid arguments they had against pepper spray 10 years ago. Having the governement oversee the sales is just another stupid probe of the goverment into our lives.

I got hit with a Taser about a month ago and it was the most incredible pain I have ever felt!! I have been sprayed 6 times with pepper spray, and although it takes longer, you can function through it to a point. The taser is impossible to fight through but when the shock it done, it's done.

The big difference between the Taser and a stun gun is what they affect. The Taser affects deep nerves, and the stun guns affect surface nerves. Both hurt, but the Taser is fucking unreal!!!

Carno · 03-04-2005, 05:47 PM

Yeah, I got stunned with a police issue taser a couple months ago, and it was a bitch. I only shot shocked on my forearm though. I can't imagine getting shocked with the two taser barbs on opposite ends of my body.

Makes me cringe just to think about it.

Kodega · 03-04-2005, 09:07 PM

Ok, how are you suppose to train with it? Quite frankly, In a self defense position, I don't really want to be using a weapon I have never had a chance to practice with.

MSD · 03-07-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodega

Ok, how are you suppose to train with it? Quite frankly, In a self defense position, I don't really want to be using a weapon I have never had a chance to practice with.

They sell foam targets for that.

Stunguns are useless. I can take 300k volts and disarm the user, I'd like to try the same with a taser (starting at lower voltage)

Kodega · 03-08-2005, 02:25 PM

I was more thinking about the ID discs. Unless there is a way to turn it off when you want to practice, but that wouldn't really make sense.

daswig · 03-08-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct

Stunguns are useless. I can take 300k volts and disarm the user, I'd like to try the same with a taser (starting at lower voltage)

It's not the volts that are dangerous, it's the amps.

Stun guns are not entirely useless, they make festive party toys. As far as serious self-defense, however, they're relatively useless. A stun gun is a better self-defense weapon than an untrained empty hand. A handgun, however, is a much better self-defense weapon than a stun gun or taser.

daswig · 03-08-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Carn

Yeah, I got stunned with a police issue taser a couple months ago, and it was a bitch. I only shot shocked on my forearm though. I can't imagine getting shocked with the two taser barbs on opposite ends of my body.

Makes me cringe just to think about it.

I've held one barb in each hand while getting zapped by it. It was interesting, especially the "afterglow" when it settles into your spine. It was amusing.

Many moons ago, a favorite party trick of mine was to get drunk hippies to hold hands, and then run electricity through all of them (with their consent, of course) by putting a stun gun contact at either end of the chain. It was pretty amusing.

squirrelyburt · 03-10-2005, 07:37 AM

lack of training is the biggest problem with civilians and purchasing anything which was invented for military or law enforcement use. They are relatively simple to use, just point like any typical handgun, place the laser on the target and bzzzttt!!! So long as you are within range and probes hit, away you go!

Fire · 04-06-2005, 02:36 AM

my problem wiht the whole thing is that you get one shot- only one, and that is it-
give my one of the new uv laser "lightning gun " tasers they are working on- that sounds like fun (sadly, they can only do backpack sized ones now)- not the phaser yet- but the humvee mounted ones are in the testing phase, and they also disable vehicles they are used on......

02-18-2005, 03:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
NewBonk Tilted Location: In My Pants	Tazer renews push to sell to general public Tazer has three 'civilian' models they are now advertising to the public. They're not cheap! The police unions already are in a tizzy and the devices themselves are already illegal in a number of states. http://www.officer.com/article/artic...&siteSection=1 I found it interesting that the law enforcement version shoots the barbs 21 feet and the civilian model does 15 feet. I guess I'll have to keep that in mind if a challenge a cop to a tazer duel. The hand-wringing is somewhat amusing since obtaining a tazer is a brady-bill worshiper's wet dream. You have to submit yourself to a background check, including submitting your social security number and if you deploy the tazer, little discs with an ID number assigned to you get shot all over the place so the police can track you down if you leave the scene. I'm interested in your opinions on this. Would you carry a tazer? I'm not sure I would ever deploy a weapon unless I was in fear of my life and then I'm not bringing a zapper to a lethal-force encounter. Oh, they do have a guarantee that if you zap someone and leave the tazer behind so that you can run away, they'll replace the tazer for free

02-19-2005, 01:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
im2smrt4u Beer Aficionado Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA	Why are they worried about people using them against police? They are more expensive than real guns, so if someone is out to get a cop, they sure aren't going to buy a TASER! __________________ Starkizzer Fan Club - President & Founder

02-21-2005, 09:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
squirrelyburt Crazy Location: Central Wisconsin	The arguments against Taser are the same stupid arguments they had against pepper spray 10 years ago. Having the governement oversee the sales is just another stupid probe of the goverment into our lives. I got hit with a Taser about a month ago and it was the most incredible pain I have ever felt!! I have been sprayed 6 times with pepper spray, and although it takes longer, you can function through it to a point. The taser is impossible to fight through but when the shock it done, it's done. The big difference between the Taser and a stun gun is what they affect. The Taser affects deep nerves, and the stun guns affect surface nerves. Both hurt, but the Taser is fucking unreal!!! __________________ If you've ever felt there was a reason to be afraid of the dark, you were right.

03-10-2005, 07:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
squirrelyburt Crazy Location: Central Wisconsin	lack of training is the biggest problem with civilians and purchasing anything which was invented for military or law enforcement use. They are relatively simple to use, just point like any typical handgun, place the laser on the target and bzzzttt!!! So long as you are within range and probes hit, away you go! __________________ If you've ever felt there was a reason to be afraid of the dark, you were right.

04-06-2005, 02:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	my problem wiht the whole thing is that you get one shot- only one, and that is it- give my one of the new uv laser "lightning gun " tasers they are working on- that sounds like fun (sadly, they can only do backpack sized ones now)- not the phaser yet- but the humvee mounted ones are in the testing phase, and they also disable vehicles they are used on...... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

02-18-2005, 05:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
syquestrd270 Tilted	I think it's a retarded idea. They're potentially lethal and we're already seeing how the police look at it as equal to pepper spray and there's the potential for abuse. Use a gun or pepper spray. Lethal or non-lethal... there's no gray area.

02-18-2005, 08:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
MrTuffPaws Addict Location: NorCal	Amen to that. Though a tazer would be fun with noisy neighbors. Nock nock Can you trun it down please? Fuck you Pop, clack clack clack .......

02-20-2005, 03:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
userasdf1234 Tilted	I think they should keep tazers out of the general public. Check out what this guy did to his kid. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0126051stun1.html Even though he got his kids to listen to him, its still messed up to do to a child

02-20-2005, 03:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
mazagmot Crazy Location: S. Korea	I wonder how long it will take someone to mod it to not shoot the little id discs. As soon as that happens, I'm going to pick one up, mod it, and live out my silent assassin fantasies that have been brought on by my years of playing ultra-violent video games.

02-20-2005, 11:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
The_Dunedan Junkie	Daswig; I guess great minds must think alike...I used to do the same thing, until someone dunked my stungun in a bown of PJ last year. I had pictures on my old computer, but lost 'em...drunken friends are a hoot!

03-04-2005, 05:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	Yeah, I got stunned with a police issue taser a couple months ago, and it was a bitch. I only shot shocked on my forearm though. I can't imagine getting shocked with the two taser barbs on opposite ends of my body. Makes me cringe just to think about it.

03-04-2005, 09:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Kodega Crazy	Ok, how are you suppose to train with it? Quite frankly, In a self defense position, I don't really want to be using a weapon I have never had a chance to practice with.

03-08-2005, 02:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kodega Crazy	I was more thinking about the ID discs. Unless there is a way to turn it off when you want to practice, but that wouldn't really make sense.