12-29-2004, 02:39 PM | #84 (permalink) |
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lol 9mm.... ha ha ha... good luck. Why don't you just carry a spear while you are at it? Carry a .45 if you have it, and get a 15 round clip for it. Then you might, stress the might, have a chance to scare it off, or 10-15 shots to the head should cause some damage.
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01-01-2005, 11:12 PM | #88 (permalink) |
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That doesn't look like a very big gun. And now that I think about it, what about an 8 gauge shotgun? I'm sure a slug from one of those bastards would slow a bear down.
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01-02-2005, 12:00 PM | #89 (permalink) |
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An 8-bore is illegal in the US, although you could do it in Canada. 8-Bore is getting into Elephant Gun territory, and if it was firing a slug with the proper charge behind it would be more than capable of handling a bear.
Finding and affording an 8-bore which could handle modern ammo, on the other hand, would be a problem. |
01-02-2005, 12:25 PM | #90 (permalink) |
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Why not carry what rangers carry? I don't think rifles or shorguns are too heavy necessarily. There are ways to carry them without too much inconvenience. I just think a handgun wouldn't be able to stop a bear.
Wouldn't the short baerel shotguns be weaker? I mean the wider spread and all? I'm not too informed on ballistics or gun basics for that matter. |
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01-04-2005, 07:35 AM | #94 (permalink) |
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How different are the laws from Canada to US? How about state-to-state? I imagine Alaska would be a lot different from California (especially LA) and Texas.
For example: If I reside in LA but go up to the Sierra Madres or other areas or to Alaska to hunt or do whatever, which gun laws do I have to follow? Obviously I don't "need" a "bear" gun in LA, (not that it's anyone's business thank you very much 2nd Amendment) but if I live here and hunt elsewhere.... I want to take my dogs out in the wilds of Alaska or the Rockies. Go salmon fishing etc. Except I don't want to compete with the bears. So...in case I run into one, I want to come out alive. Anyone else do this type of thing? |
01-04-2005, 10:44 AM | #95 (permalink) |
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Seeing some of the suggestions in this thread has inspired me to decide that the obvious solution would be a grende launcher. Sure, you'd have to register it as a destructive device, but you can't be too careful with bears.
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red snappers are 10x more destructive than a grenade launcher..... I can't believe this thread is still going
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01-05-2005, 12:25 AM | #97 (permalink) | |
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You'd have to obey the gun laws of both states if you were to own said gun. You need to obey the laws in California, as that is where it would be stored and from where it would be transported, as well as the gun laws in, say, Alaska, where it would be used. You could likely rent a gun or buy a relatively cheap on in whichever state you were to use it in, and then sell it or return it at the end of your trip. This would allow you to avoid the issues of California law.
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01-05-2005, 07:36 AM | #98 (permalink) |
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Just a side note.....A good Air horn (as in football game standby) works extremely well on black bear, scares the fuck out of 'em.......browns....fuck that. Polar= load ,shoot, bend over, kiss ass goodbye.
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01-05-2005, 09:34 AM | #99 (permalink) |
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Hey Suave,
Thanks for the tip. I was thinking if I go fishing in Alaska, I have to get a permit anyways so I assume they would fill me in on local details. Also, maybe joining a local gun club or hunting club might be a good idea too. Still gotta find out about my dogs too. Don't want them to become "bear food". *shudder* Tecoyah, That air horn sounds like a great idea. But does it really work? And wouldn't I feel the effects too not to mention my poor dogs! Well, I could always just leave the dogs at home. Incidentally, has anyone here bagged a bear? If so, what kind of bear, where, with what, how, and did you have it stuffed etc. |
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I Would Not suggest using this technique on more aggressive bears though ie: Brown/Grizzly/Polar.......probably just piss them off.
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01-05-2005, 01:49 PM | #102 (permalink) | |
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I've never bagged one (no desire), but have been hunting with buddy's that have. One was a Grizz up in Northern BC and the others were black bears in central BC. All are are rugs now. I have managed to get some nice pics of a few of them...they are linked somewhere on the TFP. Her'e's a good link for some info on kodiak and grizzly bears...now you'll know the difference..Bears
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01-05-2005, 03:56 PM | #103 (permalink) |
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Wow, lots of info. Thanks guys.
ARTelevision, that's one heck of a story, one for the ages. Great pics. I really hope I never have that encounter. Splck, thanks for the info. Those bears are a bit tricky to tell apart. I don't want to go after a bear, it was more for what do you do if you encounter one etc. |
01-05-2005, 03:56 PM | #104 (permalink) |
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".22 pistol, as reported here"
Yeah because that is all you had, really why even waste your time with carrying extra weight. Little puffs in the dirt caused by a .22 could warn off a young or just curious bear, but when you have something serious, you need to be packing the heat, not a childs toy. like the horn idea above, not a bad idea, much better than a .22, but still i would stick with the .45 hand loaded to your specifications. |
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01-11-2005, 04:01 AM | #107 (permalink) |
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http://www.accuratereloading.com/700ne.html This right here would work... might be abit heavy though.
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