arawn

but I've played a bit with some of their big fixed blades.
Nice pointy objects they are.



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saigon1965

I like knives, I think it's part of a gentleman's ensenble, a nice watch , nice pocket knife. For EDC I have a small Microtech UTX70, it's very small and I love the automatic out the front action.

cheeterbo

while i understand your tack, your original statement WAS automatically criticising him without finding out what his "reason" is for owning this knife. it was a blanket statement. all i was saying, and am saying, is that before blanket statements are made, it is prudent to ask questions before committing to the statement.

my point, opinion, post, was that i don't feel anyone needs a reason to own anything if they have the opportunity. you are most certainly entitled to your view, i simply differ.

daswig

I used to have a Cold Steel pocketknife. I think it was called the EMT or something along those lines. It was perfect for zipping through car seatbelts with one pull. Unfortunately, I lost it at 120 feet after using it to cut some braided fishing line that had snagged my tank. Little did I know that the damned things floated. I think they discontinued them, but I liked mine a lot.

I still have a little spyderco. It weighs nothing. It's got a little blade on it (<4 inches), and the blade and handle have had lots of the metal and plastic cut away to lighten it. Since I don't use it for self-defense, it does just fine for me. I can't see of a situation EVER where I'd need a knife for self-defense. That's why my old Gerber Mark 2 now only gets used to open ammo crates.

Knives are fine for paring fingernails (generally, the guy who wins a knife fight is the guy who bleeds to death last), but are totally unsuited for self-defense if other options are available.

im2smrt4u

No doubt about that. If you get in a knife fight, you WILL get cut. I'd stake my life on that.

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daswig

Reminds me of the old Marine Corps rule of combat: Bring your gun. Bring all your friends with guns.

If I don't know trouble is coming, I have a handgun to get me to the trunk. If I know trouble is coming, you'll find me behind a SAW, and not one of those cheese-dicked 5.56mm SAWs, either.

Jerron36

I now have a Emerson Cammander. It's a big knife but I love.

Suave

Unless you're REALLY quick and awesome. Might be better just to get a 5th degree blackbelt in something instead though.

daswig: I heard the M-60 has a lot of issues. I'd rather take the "cheese-dicked" M-249 if it means that it's not going to jam. Plus the belts are twice as long and ROF is about double as well.

im2smrt4u

Even with training you still probably won't come out unscathed.

Think about it, any time you are close enough to strike him, he is close enough to strike you. Unless he is really slow, you are going to stick each other many times over.

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Moonduck

You are fighting the wrong fight, cheeterbo.

1) This is the internet, specifically a message board on the internet. More specifically a weapons section of a message board on the internet. People come here to discuss weapons. Part of discussion is expressing one's opinion and/or stance. There is zero requirement to inquire as to anyone else's stance prior to stating your own. I will not change my opinion simply because you, or anyone else, dislikes it.

2) I went back and specifically reread every post I've made in this thread. Not a one of em had any direct criticism of the initial poster. If you want to find criticism directed at the poster hidden within criticism of the knife, it is your problem, not mine, as it is unintended. I'm pretty damned straightforward when it comes to these things. If I have an opinion, I don't tend to dance around it.

Where, precisely, did I say that someone "needs a reason to own" anything? Point it out to me. I said, at one point, that I couldn't think of a reason as to why I would own it, but that's the only instance. How about you go back and reread what I posted for the content, instead of what you assume to be the implied message.

daswig

who said anything about the Pig? I'm thinking foreign guns....the MG-34, MG42/MG3, the FN Mag 58, et cetera.

cheeterbo

ok then

i think where we are getting confused is when i used "he" and you thought i meant a specific poster. this is not who i meant to refer to. i was referring to the everyman or woman below who you refer to as "folks".:


i looked at your statement literally, focusing on "no apparent purpose" and was simply using logic to point out that it is impossible to know what the "purpose" is without speaking with them. after you speak to them, and find out that there is no apparent purpose, i then can understand your sentiment.

if you see someone carrying an expensive knife, or read a post of someone, and you do not know the purpose, it is my opinion that you are not being fair to that person (and to society) by stating you have "troubles" with them because the reason is not "apparent".

Moonduck

I have no onus to be fair to anyone, nor do you. As an individual capable of critical thought, I do, in fact, simply have the same right everyone else has to formulate my opinions on the world around, state those opinions, and then deal with the consequences of my statements.

In most cases, it is generally fairly obvious as to a person's purpose in owning or using darned near anything. If you take everything in my possession right now, you could probably figure out why I carry each item without too much difficulty. Same can said for what you are currently carrying on your person. A knife says an awful lot about the person carrying it. First thing it tells you is that they are willing to carry a potentially dangerous tool/weapon. This leads you to wonder, and have to decide, whether or not this willingness to carry is accompanied by competence or simple desire. Hopefully the presence of competence or, alternately churlish fanboy-ness, is obvious and will let you know if staying out of arm's reach is a necessity.

The knife itself tells you about the person as much as its' presence does. Is it an efficient all-business tool, a work of functional art, or a fru-fru silly thing designed primarily to impress your mates? Someone like myself carries efficient all-business tools generally. This says that I carry a knife most likely because I have some use for it on a day-to-day basis. Someone like Mr. Roos above carries a functional piece of fine artwork. This shows his appreciation for fine blades or functional art. What does the folder in question say about its' owner? What observations can a reasonable person make upon seeing that beast in someone's possession?

Do I know the purpose 100%? No, of course not. I would, however, lay money that my observations are correct more often than not. Same can be said about virtually any carried weapon, and many other innocuous items the average person might have as well. It is generally easy to build a fair idea of a person simply by observing the items they choose to surround themselves with.

Honestly, I'm sure why you think that such observations are not fair, nor do I understand why you are so riled that you feel the need to defend someone who is obviously not overly concerned with defending himself. So I am not being fair by your definition. And?