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Confederate · 06-13-2004, 02:36 PM

The reason behind tuesday is I get paid then and I was hoping to get the gun picked up that day. I saw a .22 auto-loader LR at Wal-mart for ~$100. I couldn't tell who made it, all I could see what a picture of an indian on the nub on the butt of the rifle. What I am going to use it for is just for fun and maybe a little bit of rodent hunting. I just want something introductory that I can have fun with. Also I have heard that with a .22 rifle I should get a fixed power scope and not an adjustable one. Something about the type of recoil messing up an adjustable site? who knows. Just wondering if this is a smart buy.

Confederate · 06-13-2004, 03:28 PM

ok found the model, It's a Savage Arms .22 LR 64F

http://www.savagearms.com/64f.htm

Boo · 06-13-2004, 04:39 PM

4-power scope. Look for the rings that allow you to use the iron sights also.

I would spend another hundred and get a Ruger 10-22. Much more reliable, holds its value, accessories everywhere and they shoot like a dream. Even a used 10-22 is better than most cheap semi-autos.

Buy everything like you need to sell it tomorrow.

splck · 06-13-2004, 05:21 PM

I'll second the 10-22 recomendation...great gun.

Confederate · 06-13-2004, 07:02 PM

ok what about a Remington Model 597? it's about the max price of my college self.

http://www.remington.com/firearms/rimfire/597.htm

DelayedReaction · 06-13-2004, 08:32 PM

Don't buy the gun yet. Save your money, go to a range, and try out what they have available. You'll be much better off experiencing the gun for a hundred rounds or so before you make your purchase. Check out www.thehighroad.org and ask around for advice as well; there may be maintanence or disassembly issues that need to be considered as well.

Why the rush?

cj2112 · 06-13-2004, 09:15 PM

buy a used ruger 10/22 you should be able to pick one up in a pawn shop for about 100 bucks, and it's 10 times the gun than either the remington or the savage.

tropple · 06-14-2004, 08:49 AM

I had a 10-22 and probably ran 100,000 rounds through it. It never jammed up. I had a wonderful time with it.

There are many after-market doodads you can hang on it, too. I bought a 50-round magazine. I don't know if they're still available anymore.

Look around for one. I'll bet you can find a used one in a pawn shop or local gun shop.

Lebell · 06-14-2004, 11:00 AM

Another vote for a 10/22, even if you have to wait and save a few more pennies.

I bought mine 20 years ago and have never regretted it.

Moonduck · 06-15-2004, 11:48 AM

Great as the 10/22 is (I've owned 2), I am more of a realist. If you have a limited budget and want to get shooting, buy what you can afford.

Personally, for cheap shooting fun, I've had some really good times with a Marlin Model 60 (I think it was). It's a simple .22LR autoloader using an integral tube mag. Tube mags suck, but they have the advantage of being less expensive to produce and design than a magazine fed gun.

Marlin makes good value-priced guns. Ruger's are better, dollar for dollar, and you will never go wrong with a Ruger product (my personal overall favorite firearms manufacturer after all), but I am still a realist. Get an inexpensive safe rifle and go blow some ammo downrange. If you find that you love it, you will figure out a way to get the money for a spiffier firearms. If not, you're out less money than with a more expensive initial buy.

BoomTruck · 06-17-2004, 05:41 AM

There is nothing at all wrong with a Savage Model 64. It's inexpensive, accurate, and the one I have has never malfunctioned on me.

lefty8080 · 06-18-2004, 02:16 PM

When I was young I started with a Marlin model 60 I believe. The advantage to starting with a cheap gun like this is if you screw up and don't take care of it and let it rust or ding it up you won't be mad at yourself. But if you are confident you can take care of the gun and keep it cleaned, oiled and in good shape a quality used 22LR can be had a very nice prices and if you buy used and take care of it you won't see the value of the gun drop much at all over the years. As a matter of fact, depending on model and condition you could see a slight increase.

titty twister · 07-11-2004, 09:06 PM

I used to do gunsmithing in college...(yeah...everyone else was waiting tables) and the bottom line is you get what you pay for. That's why I shoot Beretta, Benelli, Glock, etc. I HAD a savage rifle...it shot fine...but it was cheesy. The machining was less than perfect, edges were hard, and the synthetic stock was crap. Replaced it with a Tikka. (SAKO) What you're looking at would likely be a good beat-around gun for screwing off around the house/farm....like my Mauser. (old as dirt, ugly, but functional) Though, you might spend a LOT of time cleaning the action due to hang-ups.

If you can save a few more bucks, get a Remington or Marlin. If you can save a couple more, get a 10/22 everyone here is raving about.

And keep it clean so some poor college student doesn't have to pick the goo out of it!!

SatanLvsU2 · 07-22-2004, 04:46 AM

I have a marlin .22 bolt action. My first gun. I would recommend a bolt action as it will cost less on ammo, and is better for a beginner. I would strongly recommend that you take a gun safety course before you run off and get a gun. At the very least learn and use the four basic rules of gun safety.

Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction. Guns are machines with parts that can fail. If the gun goes off and it's pointed in a safe direction, you will be shocked, but not dead.

Always assume the gun is loaded. Before you pick up, or take a gun from someone else, while keeping it pointed in a safe direction, check to see if it is loaded. Even if you just watched someone check it. Before you hand a gun to anyone or set it down, make sure it is unloaded. Almost all accidental discharges happen with an unloaded gun.

Keep your finger OFF the trigger until you are ready to fire.

Know your target and what is beyond it. Ricochet off trees can kill you. Shooting through a piece of paper when you don't know what is behind it can kill someone else.

And now that I've said all that... Congrats on your choice, and have fun!

06-13-2004, 02:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Confederate Death Leprechaun Location: College Station, TX	Gun advice, before tuesday The reason behind tuesday is I get paid then and I was hoping to get the gun picked up that day. I saw a .22 auto-loader LR at Wal-mart for ~$100. I couldn't tell who made it, all I could see what a picture of an indian on the nub on the butt of the rifle. What I am going to use it for is just for fun and maybe a little bit of rodent hunting. I just want something introductory that I can have fun with. Also I have heard that with a .22 rifle I should get a fixed power scope and not an adjustable one. Something about the type of recoil messing up an adjustable site? who knows. Just wondering if this is a smart buy.

06-13-2004, 04:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Boo Leave me alone! Location: Alaska, USA	4-power scope. Look for the rings that allow you to use the iron sights also. I would spend another hundred and get a Ruger 10-22. Much more reliable, holds its value, accessories everywhere and they shoot like a dream. Even a used 10-22 is better than most cheap semi-autos. Buy everything like you need to sell it tomorrow. __________________ Back button again, I must be getting old.

06-13-2004, 05:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
splck it's jam Location: Lowerainland BC	I'll second the 10-22 recomendation...great gun. __________________ nice line eh?

06-13-2004, 08:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
DelayedReaction BFG Builder Location: University of Maryland	Don't buy the gun yet. Save your money, go to a range, and try out what they have available. You'll be much better off experiencing the gun for a hundred rounds or so before you make your purchase. Check out www.thehighroad.org and ask around for advice as well; there may be maintanence or disassembly issues that need to be considered as well. Why the rush? __________________ If ignorance is bliss, you must be having an orgasm.

06-14-2004, 08:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
tropple Junkie	I had a 10-22 and probably ran 100,000 rounds through it. It never jammed up. I had a wonderful time with it. There are many after-market doodads you can hang on it, too. I bought a 50-round magazine. I don't know if they're still available anymore. Look around for one. I'll bet you can find a used one in a pawn shop or local gun shop. __________________ +++++++++++Boom!

06-13-2004, 03:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Confederate Death Leprechaun Location: College Station, TX	ok found the model, It's a Savage Arms .22 LR 64F http://www.savagearms.com/64f.htm

06-13-2004, 07:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Confederate Death Leprechaun Location: College Station, TX	ok what about a Remington Model 597? it's about the max price of my college self. http://www.remington.com/firearms/rimfire/597.htm

06-13-2004, 09:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	buy a used ruger 10/22 you should be able to pick one up in a pawn shop for about 100 bucks, and it's 10 times the gun than either the remington or the savage.

06-14-2004, 11:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Another vote for a 10/22, even if you have to wait and save a few more pennies. I bought mine 20 years ago and have never regretted it. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

06-15-2004, 11:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Moonduck Junkie Location: SE USA	Great as the 10/22 is (I've owned 2), I am more of a realist. If you have a limited budget and want to get shooting, buy what you can afford. Personally, for cheap shooting fun, I've had some really good times with a Marlin Model 60 (I think it was). It's a simple .22LR autoloader using an integral tube mag. Tube mags suck, but they have the advantage of being less expensive to produce and design than a magazine fed gun. Marlin makes good value-priced guns. Ruger's are better, dollar for dollar, and you will never go wrong with a Ruger product (my personal overall favorite firearms manufacturer after all), but I am still a realist. Get an inexpensive safe rifle and go blow some ammo downrange. If you find that you love it, you will figure out a way to get the money for a spiffier firearms. If not, you're out less money than with a more expensive initial buy.

06-17-2004, 05:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
BoomTruck Insane Location: On a gravel road rough enought to knock fillings out of teeth.	There is nothing at all wrong with a Savage Model 64. It's inexpensive, accurate, and the one I have has never malfunctioned on me. __________________ Judge me all you want, but keep the verdict to yourself.

06-18-2004, 02:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
lefty8080 Upright	When I was young I started with a Marlin model 60 I believe. The advantage to starting with a cheap gun like this is if you screw up and don't take care of it and let it rust or ding it up you won't be mad at yourself. But if you are confident you can take care of the gun and keep it cleaned, oiled and in good shape a quality used 22LR can be had a very nice prices and if you buy used and take care of it you won't see the value of the gun drop much at all over the years. As a matter of fact, depending on model and condition you could see a slight increase.

07-11-2004, 09:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
titty twister Upright Location: In the armpit.	I used to do gunsmithing in college...(yeah...everyone else was waiting tables) and the bottom line is you get what you pay for. That's why I shoot Beretta, Benelli, Glock, etc. I HAD a savage rifle...it shot fine...but it was cheesy. The machining was less than perfect, edges were hard, and the synthetic stock was crap. Replaced it with a Tikka. (SAKO) What you're looking at would likely be a good beat-around gun for screwing off around the house/farm....like my Mauser. (old as dirt, ugly, but functional) Though, you might spend a LOT of time cleaning the action due to hang-ups. If you can save a few more bucks, get a Remington or Marlin. If you can save a couple more, get a 10/22 everyone here is raving about. And keep it clean so some poor college student doesn't have to pick the goo out of it!! __________________ Ignorance solves all problems...If you can't see them, they can't see you.

07-22-2004, 04:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
SatanLvsU2 Upright	I have a marlin .22 bolt action. My first gun. I would recommend a bolt action as it will cost less on ammo, and is better for a beginner. I would strongly recommend that you take a gun safety course before you run off and get a gun. At the very least learn and use the four basic rules of gun safety. Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction. Guns are machines with parts that can fail. If the gun goes off and it's pointed in a safe direction, you will be shocked, but not dead. Always assume the gun is loaded. Before you pick up, or take a gun from someone else, while keeping it pointed in a safe direction, check to see if it is loaded. Even if you just watched someone check it. Before you hand a gun to anyone or set it down, make sure it is unloaded. Almost all accidental discharges happen with an unloaded gun. Keep your finger OFF the trigger until you are ready to fire. Know your target and what is beyond it. Ricochet off trees can kill you. Shooting through a piece of paper when you don't know what is behind it can kill someone else. And now that I've said all that... Congrats on your choice, and have fun!