This is like the best hand gun you could have
 

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Desert Eagle .50 AE

Israeli Military Industries = the best, top quality... you could shoot anything with this piece, man. This is better than any American or Russian guns.

Heh... Glock-17 any day of the week.
If I were military and I needed AP ammunition it would be an F&N five seven.

That gun is not practical.

Not to mention unreliable.

Yeah even though it's big, mean, and packs a big punch, i'd rather go with something more reliable.

Jam-o-matic.

My friend had a DE .50 and ended up selling it, it was so unreliable.

If you gave me one, I would immediately trade it in towards a SIG or an H&K.

I would like to see you trying to CCW a DE.50, not to mention taking a quick followup shot.

I will stick with my whimpy 9mm SA XD

Bah, for the price of that monstrosity, you can get two or three very nice 1911's.

And no, IMI is not even close to top quality. Any of the american or german, hell even the czech and russian pistols are far more reliable than the DE.

SIG P-229 (.40), please...

http://remtek.com/arms/sig/model/229/229.gif

If I ever find the need for a crew-served handgun, I'll look IMI up. Until then, I could of quite a large number of manufacturers with FAR higher quality standards than IMI, not to mention better engineering. It's big, it's impressive, it's basically worthless for any sort of actual use.

I realize the DE's aren't practical for defensive purposes for a number of reasons. The top ones being reliability and difficulty with follow up shots. But you have to admit those things are cool looking. I like the Polished Chrome and Nickel finishes better than plain black though. I would love to add a DE to my collection somewhere down the rode just for shits and giggles. A good reason not to use a magnum load to defend your house is that those high velocity loads tend to go right through walls while maintaining lethal velocity, something to think about if you have a family or neighbors. Same goes for shotgun slugs, just thought I would mention that while we were on the subject. Sorry for going off on a tangent. Happy gunning to all...

-Dostoevsky

Man, listen to Dostoevsky, this gun is so powerful it could shoot you through a wall and still kill you! I know you have to recock it or whatever to fire the next shot, but seriously, if your aim is right, you dont need a second shot!

You don't have to recock it to fire a second shot.

Best quote in a long ass time.

Kudo's to you sir.

-bear

I could be mistaken, but I think you missed the point. A projectile that continues on through several walls with lethal force is *not* a good thing. If your aim is right with any firearm, you don't need a second shot.

Of course, not every gun has the potential to kill someone if you drop it on them after it jams. :)

Come on, look at the SIG P-229 (.40) that Powerclown posted. Yeah, it might be a good gun, but it looks so small and weak compared to the Desert E!

I mean, I can believe that some guns may jam, but I honestly have to say, inexpert that I am, the main Israeli arms manufacturer, of one the most technologically advanced military forces in the world, is not going to mass produce a gun that doesnt work. if you look after this piece I am sure it will work fine 99.9% of times, and its stopping power is off the hook.

*bangs head against wall* The aesthetics of a gun does not affect the performance of gun, just like slapping a few dozen stickers on a car won't make it go faster.

Some guns are notorious for jamming, regardless of who makes the gun.

Israel military technologically advanced?
*Laughs*
I've been there. I worked in tzahal for 4 months.
They can't afford to be advanced...
shit... they couldn't, as of recent memory, afford to give every soldier body armor.

Israel's army is one of the best armed, is probably the best trained and best overall infantary force in the world. They are well supported by good American planes and world leading Israeli and American missile technology.

But that is off topic.

This is an elite handgun, people can come up with whatever criticisms, the fact is, it is internationally respected and famous.

Good to know you're open to other options. :rolleyes:

And the ONLY reason Israel has such a good army is because we give them whatever they want. Otherwise, they would have just as pathetic of forces as others in the region.

And no offense, don't go acting like IMI is king shit. You can have your DE .50 And you speak of stopping power, have you ever been shot? A .45 would be just as good.

And it's not "Internationally respected" when everyone on this forum, and elsewhere is slandering it because it jams, and is unreliable, not to mention the impractical.

To each his own, but don't go saying all other guns, American, Russian, whatever, are not as good as this "Piece".

hey, Im really not going to get off topic anymore other than to say one more thing!

You talk about weapons, and Israel being pathetic other than what America gives them... who invented the atom bomb, basically the biggest most terrible weapon ever used... a Jewish guy. Fact!

And with all due respect, this forum, although I am sure it is full of knoledgable people on the subject, doesnt equal the international arms buying community... the Desert E is a good selling gun for a reason.

And no, Ive never been shot. yeah, a .45 would be the same, someone could shoot me wit a .22 and I would die if they hit me right, but could these guns bust through a wall or two and STILL kill me? doubtful!

Just an FYI,

Side arms typically used by the IDF and special forces (when carried at all) are the SIG P226, SIG P229, Glock 17, Glock 19, FN Browning, and occasionally, the Beretta 92F.

To the best of my knowledge, the Desert Eagle is not used because, well, it's unreliable. (A .1 percent failure rate is unacceptable, btw.)

wow nice guns

Since when are you going to be having a shoot-out with someone and have to shoot them behind a wall, besides, how are you going to know where they are? You have X-ray vision or something? And, why do you want the bullet to go through the wall, you could just have it go into the person and stay there, instead of exiting them, going through 2 walls, and hitting an innocent bystander.

Also, Einstein did NOT invent the Atom Bomb alone, and why do you have to bring him being jewish into the equation, what does that matter? Obviously it does to you, for some odd reason, seeing your avatar. But don't forget about Robert Oppenheimer and all the other people that supported the program; as well as the Nazi researchers whos info and research they stole.
And, both the hydrogen bomb and nuclear bomb are both worse weapons than the Atomic bomb, and don't forget about Chemical/Biological weapons. Get your ego in check there bud.

I think you need to get your facts straight as well. Right now, Israel would be decimated by riots and terrorist actions if it wasn't for all the support that the US has given them, all the arms, tanks, missle defense systems, etc. But this is NOT the place to discuss Israel, so I'm done.

However, about the DE .50, get realistic.

Albert Einstein proved it was possible. He in no way shape or form "invented" the atomic bomb. There were a few hundred american scientists working on the project.

As for why the Desert Eagle is as popular as it is, simple, Counter Strike. Most people heard of it through this game and since it is phenominal in the game it must be great in real life, right?

Once again, the power of the .50 Action Express is very much over rated. There is a world of revolver cartridges that are much more powerful.

For instance:

.50 AE -- Around 1600 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle

.454 Cassull -- Around 1800 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle

.500 SW Magnum -- Greater than 2000 ft/lbs at the muzzle

Not to mention the .475 and .500 Linebaugh and it's wildcats (there's about six for each caliber). Each one is greater than 1600 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle.

:lol::lol:

I get the feeling as of late that StrangeFamous is supporting guns merely because they are used by (in this case, not even used... made by) a certain country... Not a good idea. OK, the gun looks cool in the movies and in games, but theres a bit of a difference between that and firing a real weapon.

In all honesty, Id rather use my .22 S&W revolver than that thing. I *know* my S&W isnt going to jam, I *know* it is accurate, and I *know* that I can place a follow-up shot faster and more accurately than with that thing.

I think I have been asked not to post much more in this particular forum, and it is a little off topic, but in response to two people's comments, I am afraid I do feel I have to just add one thing to what a couple of people have said:

Robert Oppenheimer was Jewish.

Re: This is like the best hand gun you could have
 

You DO know that the Mk 19 Desert Eagles are manufactured in the US, right?

I own a Mk 7 .50. As long as you feed it full-house loads and keep it clean, it works. It can get very finicky when shooting handloads through it. I carry it hunting, although I usually don't see anything unless I have my .300 with me. Go figure.

Guys, I think that Strange is either having a good time getting you all riled up or is so miss-guided on this subject that all the typing in the world wouldn't straighten him out. Either way, we should probably let this silly ass debate gooooooo.....

Screw the DE, let's talk about the Uzi....undeniably the best SMG of it's generation. Now that's some freaking firepower!!

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-It was just a joke y'all

Here is the best target handgun by many standards (most importantly: Price)

http://www.kimdutoit.com/images/Ruger_MkII.jpg

That's the Ruger Mark 2.

Yeah, but it's a bitch to put back together after you clean it. Gotta use the flip trick.

Not much to say about the DE that hasn't already been said. Never fired one, but I sure don't want one that will go through the target, the wall, and then a family member.

Although I was constantly amazed that Agent Smith's gun NEVER jammed.

You gotta love Hollywood.

Or maybe the Matrix.

Desert Eagles are great in The Matrix and Counterstrike, but are not practical for real-life defense. It's so huge that you can't practically conceal it on your person, and is honestly too powerful to safely use for home-defense. The DE is merely a penis extension for those who need it.

Heh, i've heard Desert Eagles, guy had one in an indoor range that i goto. Of course he picked the lane right next to me. That thing was insanely loud even w/ my ear protection on (they are rated one of the highest among ear protection) Friend also said the recoil on the DE is uncontrollable when shooting rapid fire or anything related to self-defense firing.

Or maybe he doesn't know as much as everyone else about guns, and wants to discuss it, and should accept criticism if he calls the Desert Eagle the best gun ever.

Also, how the hell did we get on the subject of whether or not a Jewish guy invented the atomic bomb? This is the thread to talk about the DE, not get sidetracked. That particular side note isn't going anywhere but down, and it's a good idea to not let it get there.

If you want my two cents ... For range firing and showing off to your buddies, the DE is an impressive-looking and sounding gun, but for practical applications, it can't compare to more reliable, compact, easy-to-control sidearms.

As a side note, don't come crying to me when you try to shoot it "Gangsta style" (sideways) and break your wrist. Just thought I'd share that bit of advice.

My S&W .500 gives your DE penis envy with it's stopping power (and pure overkillness)!

http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/use...0231_large.jpg

Hmph.

If I ever have a spare 7k, I'll pick up one of these bad boys first:

http://www.barrettrifles.com/images/model82A1.jpg

Thank you Ronnie Barrett!

Me I am a 45 kind a guy. The one I have been really looking for is a DETONICS 45 ACP. A great gun from all I have heard about it. I have also owend a Ruger 45 it was a great gun.

You must have some really strong forearms to hold that handgun.

Since the cat is out of the bag and we are escaping the general restriction of "hand gun" -I'll beat everyone to the punch with our little arms race.

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Ok the deagle .50 is unreliable and whatnot but what about the .357 .44 versions how are those?

One thing I learned from a DE (besides the proper way to manage recoil) is not to try hip shooting them. The way the brass ejects will attempt to put a rather warm case up your nose.

1-up!

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/...mages/alcm.jpg

By the way, the SIG P-229 is being adopted by the Memphis PD. I hear it's a great gun. The department tried a bunch of different guns, put about 3k-5k rounds through them, non-stop. (They had the rookies loading mags non-stop, too.) The P-229 was the only gun that didn't jam. Es good.

Asuka, I'll re-enter this thread to do my best to answer your question. The way it's been explained to me is that magnum cartridges don't feed well into Semi-Auto's (DE) because they were created with revolvers in mind and the overall length and shape of the magnum cartridge creates a bad angle through the feed-ramp and into the chamber. This bad angle creates a greater probabilty that a round will get stuck on the way into the chamber which creates more malfunctions (jams). This is why people say the DE is unreliable. It seems to be more a problem with attempting to fire revolver rounds through a semi-auto than a design/engineering type problem. That is how I understand it.

There is a point to that, but it doesn't apply to the .50 AE, as it is a rebated-rim cartridge.

Most failure to feed- type problem in a DE can be attributed to underpowered ammo (they like a steady diet of full-house loads), weak mag springs (has caused me problems, the last 2 in a mag had trouble feeding), or limp-wristing it and not giving the slide something to work against.

I'm not saying they are perfect, mind you, but I also tire of people automatically decrying a .50 as useless.

colt 45

If you haven't shot one, a deagle might look cool. In practice it's just heavy, slow, and the most unreliable thing I have ever picked up (20% jam rate).

...it must have taken them ages to film the Guy Ritchie masterpiece "Snatch" just to get the bloody thing to fire properly!

Glock 23, thank you and good night.

Beretta 92fs Love...:D

Other than that, i'd love to shoot a Desert Eagle...but it'll probably only be used for hunting

The trigger mechanism in the DE .50 is very long and slow for my liking. I have handled several with work and fired one a few times. Honestly it's not my cup-o-tea, but then again I'm a .45acp fan and don't have much use for the new super $2 a shot revolver catridges. To each his/her (how pc of me) own though.

LSD

I'd like a five seven, pretty good stopping power, and not too big.. too bad i don't have a grand to dish out for one.

A SF guy I know on another board just got a Five.seveN. Soooo sexy...

For pure destructive power, I'd rather take the 500 S&W Magnum over the .50 DE. Plus I've always been partial to revolvers.

Ive seen the S&W .50 cal in pitures only but even with that its a BEAST. The hunting model looks neato. Has anyone fired one?

unless there are multiple attackers?!@

I dont have my CCW.... yet. But my roommates do. When they went through the shooting part of the course their instructor brought out his DE .50. He had all the students work on double taps. It was damn near impossible to double tap with the DE. The recoil was nay impossible to control. Personally I would take a Glock 26. Accurate, reliable, controllable, concealable. Works for me.

Um, this gun is not used by the Israeli Military, at least not as far as I know. If you can find evidence that I am wrong then please post it.

Rather, the Desert Eagle is made for people like you, who want the biggest gun they can find. It is for civilians who either just want a toy, or are substituting.

It's a shame you live in England, because you probably will not have much opportunity to actually go fire a bunch of weapons and become proficient enough with them to form some educated opinions, but you can read some of the posts about this sort of thing on some of the gun forums.

For instance:

www.thehighroad.org

www.packing.org

www.thefiringline.com (this was shut down, but the posts are still archived for searches)

www.tacticalforums.org (I am not sure about the URL on this one)

Oh, and by the way, most handguns will go through a wall and still be able to kill...walls are not normally very good at stopping bullets.

I've shot a .50 and the one thing that jumped out at me was the odd recoil. The gun comes straight back at you, then up. I didn't like shooting it at all. I'll stick to my .454.

Glock 22

The DE is almost the stupidest gun ever made, empty its like 7lbs and the ejection port is on the TOP! The shells pop out right over your head and give you a nice forehead hickey if you're not wearing a hat.

Stupid gun. That being said, so is the S&W 500. Sure you can put a hole in almost anything, but where is the practicality? It would sure scare the shit out of someone tho.

The standard revolver is just so that they could reclaim the "biggest gun" award, the hunting varient is quickly becoming popular amongst big game hunters as a primary or backup weapon when dealing with dangerous game.

DE = poser crap hardware.

Go with a Glock for the reliability. Pretty much all the police officer's I know (I have an uncle who's a sheriff) swear by them.

For actual use, I'd go with a SIG P229 or P9S. Either of those or maybe a Glock 20.

If you want a huge handgun just for huge handgun sake, get a .454 Cassull.

Are we still talking about the freaking DE?

It's really not all that.

I've shot DEs in the 3 basic caliburs: 357mgm, 44mgm, and 50ae.

I have friends who boar hunt and predictably, they use only big bore pistols.
Really, I only found shooting the DE in 357mgm to be a pleasant experience.

The earlier statement about the pistol's popularity is fairly inaccurate. It is wholely a niche/novelty handgun. Soldiers do not use these pistols. Even without the reliable feeding issues the DE would not be a good choice for a combat handgun.

-they are too heavy and bulky (the same is true with the HK Mark 23)
-the ammo is too expensive and hard to find out of country
-parts and magazines are too hard to come by (again, out of country).

Any "popularity" enjoyed by the DE soley rests on the shoulders of the movie industry and video games.

As an aside: scary handgun? BFR from Magnum Research chambered in 4570gvt.

:D

Cheers,
B.

(edited for irritating spelling errors)

I have fired a DE .50 and .357, and I'd have to say that I was very, very impressed with them. Of course, the weapon didn't malfunction at all while I was using it, but the accuracy of both is very high. With the .50 Cal, I was hitting a 6 inch by 6 inch target at 100 yards with relative ease.

The kick from both of them are actually pretty similar to a 9mm, I would imagine because the weapon is just so heavy. I would bet that you could be just as accurate with a quick 2nd shot from the DE than with a typical 9mm.

Just figured I'd throw that out there :D

Well I've owned several guns, colts, glocks, brownings, CZ's ect. If I had to have only one pistol, I would pick a .357 revolver, a sw 686 or 681, heavy frame, can handle any hot load you put through it, or any light load or .38 you want, not fancy but it just works.

Wasn't that Jewish guy a German? We're talking about countries here, not ethnic origins. I wouldn't be proud of inventing atomic weaponry either.

As far as the international arms buying community, there are thousands of "thugged out gangstaz" and uneducated rebel forces who would blow their load at the sight of a .50 cal pistol and buy it (maybe buy two and try shooting them akimbo :lol: ). Doesn't mean it's a good weapon.

I'll give the DE its props though; it's an awesome pistol to use in Counter-Strike.

I can't believe this is going to be my first post in months...(I just got internet again)

The Desert Eagle does exactly what it was designed to do....Look more macho than all the other "normal" handguns on the market and thus capture an entire segment of the population who purchases firearms (and fast cars too, perhaps) in order to present a badass image.

Why is this thread still going on? The main topic question was answered correctly in the first three replies.

I think it's because someone resurrected it in order to troll. Look for the big jump in datestamps from one post to the next to find the troll.

Definitely a troll at this point...

oh, I was just being patriotic. I dont really know anything about guns, but a gun that can shoot through a wall does sound kinda cool, dont you think?

Pretty much any gun can shoot through a wall. Hell, I've even shot a pellet from a mid-power pellet gun a good couple of centimetres into a solid wood wall.

You're being patriotic, over an Israeli weapon, but you're living in England?

What the hell am I missing? :confused:

If you know nothing about firearms then stop making rash statements like, "this is the best weapon there is because they made it in Israel, it can shoot through a wall, and it is used in every single gay-ass movie for angsty teens".

A tiny little .22 revolver that a 3yr old could swallow can shoot through a wall, plus it probably won't jam 1/100th as often or have horrible recoil.

Someone just ban this guy already! Given his grasp of reality it is obvious that he is too young, (thus he lied) when signing up for the TFP.

People that say things like that are the same ones that sit lawn chairs and yell at 3rd graders to get off their grass.

Interesting, since I don't remember ending the sentence there. Next time you intentionally misquote someone try and make sure it isn't directly below said quote.

Also why are you trying to defend this poser who starts a thread saying something is fact then later admits to knowing nothing about the subject? His rational is that the DE is made by jews, and a jewish guy helped to make the atomic bomb, therefore the DE is the best handgun you could own.

Tell me again this is a guy old enough to visit the Titty Board!

Amen to that.