This is like the best hand gun you could have
 

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Desert Eagle .50 AE

Israeli Military Industries = the best, top quality... you could shoot anything with this piece, man. This is better than any American or Russian guns.

Heh... Glock-17 any day of the week.
If I were military and I needed AP ammunition it would be an F&N five seven.

That gun is not practical.

Not to mention unreliable.

Yeah even though it's big, mean, and packs a big punch, i'd rather go with something more reliable.

Jam-o-matic.

My friend had a DE .50 and ended up selling it, it was so unreliable.

If you gave me one, I would immediately trade it in towards a SIG or an H&K.

I would like to see you trying to CCW a DE.50, not to mention taking a quick followup shot.

I will stick with my whimpy 9mm SA XD

Bah, for the price of that monstrosity, you can get two or three very nice 1911's.

And no, IMI is not even close to top quality. Any of the american or german, hell even the czech and russian pistols are far more reliable than the DE.

SIG P-229 (.40), please...

http://remtek.com/arms/sig/model/229/229.gif

If I ever find the need for a crew-served handgun, I'll look IMI up. Until then, I could of quite a large number of manufacturers with FAR higher quality standards than IMI, not to mention better engineering. It's big, it's impressive, it's basically worthless for any sort of actual use.

I realize the DE's aren't practical for defensive purposes for a number of reasons. The top ones being reliability and difficulty with follow up shots. But you have to admit those things are cool looking. I like the Polished Chrome and Nickel finishes better than plain black though. I would love to add a DE to my collection somewhere down the rode just for shits and giggles. A good reason not to use a magnum load to defend your house is that those high velocity loads tend to go right through walls while maintaining lethal velocity, something to think about if you have a family or neighbors. Same goes for shotgun slugs, just thought I would mention that while we were on the subject. Sorry for going off on a tangent. Happy gunning to all...

-Dostoevsky

Man, listen to Dostoevsky, this gun is so powerful it could shoot you through a wall and still kill you! I know you have to recock it or whatever to fire the next shot, but seriously, if your aim is right, you dont need a second shot!

You don't have to recock it to fire a second shot.

Best quote in a long ass time.

Kudo's to you sir.

-bear

I could be mistaken, but I think you missed the point. A projectile that continues on through several walls with lethal force is *not* a good thing. If your aim is right with any firearm, you don't need a second shot.

Of course, not every gun has the potential to kill someone if you drop it on them after it jams. :)

Come on, look at the SIG P-229 (.40) that Powerclown posted. Yeah, it might be a good gun, but it looks so small and weak compared to the Desert E!

I mean, I can believe that some guns may jam, but I honestly have to say, inexpert that I am, the main Israeli arms manufacturer, of one the most technologically advanced military forces in the world, is not going to mass produce a gun that doesnt work. if you look after this piece I am sure it will work fine 99.9% of times, and its stopping power is off the hook.

*bangs head against wall* The aesthetics of a gun does not affect the performance of gun, just like slapping a few dozen stickers on a car won't make it go faster.

Some guns are notorious for jamming, regardless of who makes the gun.

Israel military technologically advanced?
*Laughs*
I've been there. I worked in tzahal for 4 months.
They can't afford to be advanced...
shit... they couldn't, as of recent memory, afford to give every soldier body armor.

Israel's army is one of the best armed, is probably the best trained and best overall infantary force in the world. They are well supported by good American planes and world leading Israeli and American missile technology.

But that is off topic.

This is an elite handgun, people can come up with whatever criticisms, the fact is, it is internationally respected and famous.

Good to know you're open to other options. :rolleyes:

And the ONLY reason Israel has such a good army is because we give them whatever they want. Otherwise, they would have just as pathetic of forces as others in the region.

And no offense, don't go acting like IMI is king shit. You can have your DE .50 And you speak of stopping power, have you ever been shot? A .45 would be just as good.

And it's not "Internationally respected" when everyone on this forum, and elsewhere is slandering it because it jams, and is unreliable, not to mention the impractical.

To each his own, but don't go saying all other guns, American, Russian, whatever, are not as good as this "Piece".

hey, Im really not going to get off topic anymore other than to say one more thing!

You talk about weapons, and Israel being pathetic other than what America gives them... who invented the atom bomb, basically the biggest most terrible weapon ever used... a Jewish guy. Fact!

And with all due respect, this forum, although I am sure it is full of knoledgable people on the subject, doesnt equal the international arms buying community... the Desert E is a good selling gun for a reason.

And no, Ive never been shot. yeah, a .45 would be the same, someone could shoot me wit a .22 and I would die if they hit me right, but could these guns bust through a wall or two and STILL kill me? doubtful!

Just an FYI,

Side arms typically used by the IDF and special forces (when carried at all) are the SIG P226, SIG P229, Glock 17, Glock 19, FN Browning, and occasionally, the Beretta 92F.

To the best of my knowledge, the Desert Eagle is not used because, well, it's unreliable. (A .1 percent failure rate is unacceptable, btw.)

wow nice guns

Since when are you going to be having a shoot-out with someone and have to shoot them behind a wall, besides, how are you going to know where they are? You have X-ray vision or something? And, why do you want the bullet to go through the wall, you could just have it go into the person and stay there, instead of exiting them, going through 2 walls, and hitting an innocent bystander.

Also, Einstein did NOT invent the Atom Bomb alone, and why do you have to bring him being jewish into the equation, what does that matter? Obviously it does to you, for some odd reason, seeing your avatar. But don't forget about Robert Oppenheimer and all the other people that supported the program; as well as the Nazi researchers whos info and research they stole.
And, both the hydrogen bomb and nuclear bomb are both worse weapons than the Atomic bomb, and don't forget about Chemical/Biological weapons. Get your ego in check there bud.

I think you need to get your facts straight as well. Right now, Israel would be decimated by riots and terrorist actions if it wasn't for all the support that the US has given them, all the arms, tanks, missle defense systems, etc. But this is NOT the place to discuss Israel, so I'm done.

However, about the DE .50, get realistic.

Albert Einstein proved it was possible. He in no way shape or form "invented" the atomic bomb. There were a few hundred american scientists working on the project.

As for why the Desert Eagle is as popular as it is, simple, Counter Strike. Most people heard of it through this game and since it is phenominal in the game it must be great in real life, right?

Once again, the power of the .50 Action Express is very much over rated. There is a world of revolver cartridges that are much more powerful.

For instance:

.50 AE -- Around 1600 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle

.454 Cassull -- Around 1800 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle

.500 SW Magnum -- Greater than 2000 ft/lbs at the muzzle

Not to mention the .475 and .500 Linebaugh and it's wildcats (there's about six for each caliber). Each one is greater than 1600 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle.

:lol::lol:

I get the feeling as of late that StrangeFamous is supporting guns merely because they are used by (in this case, not even used... made by) a certain country... Not a good idea. OK, the gun looks cool in the movies and in games, but theres a bit of a difference between that and firing a real weapon.

In all honesty, Id rather use my .22 S&W revolver than that thing. I *know* my S&W isnt going to jam, I *know* it is accurate, and I *know* that I can place a follow-up shot faster and more accurately than with that thing.

I think I have been asked not to post much more in this particular forum, and it is a little off topic, but in response to two people's comments, I am afraid I do feel I have to just add one thing to what a couple of people have said:

Robert Oppenheimer was Jewish.

Re: This is like the best hand gun you could have
 

You DO know that the Mk 19 Desert Eagles are manufactured in the US, right?

I own a Mk 7 .50. As long as you feed it full-house loads and keep it clean, it works. It can get very finicky when shooting handloads through it. I carry it hunting, although I usually don't see anything unless I have my .300 with me. Go figure.

Guys, I think that Strange is either having a good time getting you all riled up or is so miss-guided on this subject that all the typing in the world wouldn't straighten him out. Either way, we should probably let this silly ass debate gooooooo.....

Screw the DE, let's talk about the Uzi....undeniably the best SMG of it's generation. Now that's some freaking firepower!!

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-It was just a joke y'all

Here is the best target handgun by many standards (most importantly: Price)

http://www.kimdutoit.com/images/Ruger_MkII.jpg

That's the Ruger Mark 2.

Yeah, but it's a bitch to put back together after you clean it. Gotta use the flip trick.

Not much to say about the DE that hasn't already been said. Never fired one, but I sure don't want one that will go through the target, the wall, and then a family member.

Although I was constantly amazed that Agent Smith's gun NEVER jammed.

You gotta love Hollywood.

Or maybe the Matrix.

Desert Eagles are great in The Matrix and Counterstrike, but are not practical for real-life defense. It's so huge that you can't practically conceal it on your person, and is honestly too powerful to safely use for home-defense. The DE is merely a penis extension for those who need it.

Heh, i've heard Desert Eagles, guy had one in an indoor range that i goto. Of course he picked the lane right next to me. That thing was insanely loud even w/ my ear protection on (they are rated one of the highest among ear protection) Friend also said the recoil on the DE is uncontrollable when shooting rapid fire or anything related to self-defense firing.

Or maybe he doesn't know as much as everyone else about guns, and wants to discuss it, and should accept criticism if he calls the Desert Eagle the best gun ever.

Also, how the hell did we get on the subject of whether or not a Jewish guy invented the atomic bomb? This is the thread to talk about the DE, not get sidetracked. That particular side note isn't going anywhere but down, and it's a good idea to not let it get there.

If you want my two cents ... For range firing and showing off to your buddies, the DE is an impressive-looking and sounding gun, but for practical applications, it can't compare to more reliable, compact, easy-to-control sidearms.

As a side note, don't come crying to me when you try to shoot it "Gangsta style" (sideways) and break your wrist. Just thought I'd share that bit of advice.

My S&W .500 gives your DE penis envy with it's stopping power (and pure overkillness)!

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Hmph.

If I ever have a spare 7k, I'll pick up one of these bad boys first:

http://www.barrettrifles.com/images/model82A1.jpg

Thank you Ronnie Barrett!

Me I am a 45 kind a guy. The one I have been really looking for is a DETONICS 45 ACP. A great gun from all I have heard about it. I have also owend a Ruger 45 it was a great gun.

You must have some really strong forearms to hold that handgun.

Since the cat is out of the bag and we are escaping the general restriction of "hand gun" -I'll beat everyone to the punch with our little arms race.

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Ok the deagle .50 is unreliable and whatnot but what about the .357 .44 versions how are those?