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Fallon · 01-20-2004, 06:41 AM

My fiancee and I are tryin to help out a friend who lost his home. So we're trying to get him to move in with us, but he lives down in VA, while we're up in Rhode Island. It looks like if he comes to live with us, he'll be on a train. Now our problem is, he's got an HK handgun, but we don't know how he'll transport it up here. We were hoping for some suggestions or ideas, thanks.

SuperMidget · 01-20-2004, 07:49 AM

Assuming he can legally possess it in RI, to transport it, put it in a locked gun case, and keep ammo in a seperate locked container. Throw the locked cases in his suitcase and take it on the train with him. Unless the train has a policy against firearms, (make sure to check this out). If the train company has rules against it, the only option would be to either drive, or have an FFL ship it to another FFL near you in RI.

For RI firearms laws:
http://www.packing.org/states.jsp

(I think I covered everything, maybe someone will correct me, or think of something I forgot)

cj2112 · 01-20-2004, 07:55 AM

I would suggest shipping the firearm via UPS Prior to him coming, Amtrak prohibits weapons aboard their trains.

hrdwareguy · 01-20-2004, 07:58 AM

Like SuperMidget said, check the policy of the train and if they don't have a policy agains it, lock it and back it with him. If they do have a policy against it, instead of mailing it via ffl and paying them to do it. Take the gun apart. Put some of the parts in one box and the rest in a second box and ship them via UPS. This way you are shipping parts which is not against the law.

MSD · 01-20-2004, 08:41 AM

Actually, I don't think you need to take it apart. I believe UPS will allow you to ship a firearm if you tell them, they'll package it specially, and you won't have to worry about anything getting lost.

cj2112 · 01-20-2004, 08:54 AM

Quote:

quote taken from UPS website
Shipping Firearms Including Handguns

Customers must observe the following procedures to ship firearms (including handguns) via UPS:

UPS accepts firearm shipments from UPS daily pickup accounts and through UPS Customer Counters. UPS daily pickup accounts can also ship firearms, not including handguns, through UPS Internet Shipping, On-Call PickupSM, and One-Time Pickup. Firearms are not accepted for shipment via UPS Letter Centers, UPS SonicAir BestFlightSM service, or international service. Firearms will not be accepted when presented for shipment at a UPS Authorized Shipping Outlet or a UPS Commercial Counter.
UPS accepts handgun shipments from UPS daily pickup accounts and through UPS Customer Counters. Handguns are not accepted for shipment via UPS Letter Centers, UPS SonicAir BestFlight service, UPS Internet Shipping, UPS On-Call Pickup, UPS One-Time Pickup, or international service. Handguns will not be accepted when presented for shipment at a UPS Authorized Shipping Outlet or a UPS Commercial Counter.
Firearm shippers shipping through a UPS Customer Counter must have a letter on record with UPS stating their status as an authorized firearm shipper.
The shipper must affix a UPS label, requesting an adult signature upon delivery, to each package containing a firearm.
Packages containing handguns must be shipped via UPS Next Day Air Early A.M.®, UPS Next Day Air®, or UPS Next Day Air Saver® service.
Packages containing handguns must be segregated from other packages being tendered to UPS. Handgun shippers must verbally notify the UPS driver or UPS Customer Counter clerk of any package containing a handgun.
UPS prohibits the inclusion of ammunition in packages containing firearms, including handguns.
In locations where a UPS Next Day Air service is not offered, packages containing handguns must be shipped via the most premium domestic air service available.

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/res.../firearms.html

looks like that's the way to go, just make sure he ships any ammo in a seperate package

Fallon · 01-20-2004, 09:09 AM

Herm, thank you all for the resources and stuff. And goddamn Rhode Island, and their "We don't really give out permits anymore" attitude. I'll have to talk to my friend about it, but all of us don't really want him to get rid of it.

MrFuzzy469 · 01-20-2004, 11:48 AM

When I have shipped my gun back to the manufacturer, they told me to send it UPS Next Day Air and mark it as "sporting goods." I did not have any problems. You might think about that.

hrdwareguy · 01-20-2004, 12:05 PM

I just sent my gun back. Stuck it in a box, sent it 2nd day air, didn't mark the box at all. Got there just fine.

Lebell · 01-20-2004, 12:43 PM

NOTE!

It is legal to ship guns to yourself; you do NOT need to ship them FFL to FFL.

blockmaan2000 · 01-22-2004, 07:02 PM

I concur, have your friend ship it from himself to himself.

block

01-20-2004, 06:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Fallon Junkie Location: RI	Transporting a firearm My fiancee and I are tryin to help out a friend who lost his home. So we're trying to get him to move in with us, but he lives down in VA, while we're up in Rhode Island. It looks like if he comes to live with us, he'll be on a train. Now our problem is, he's got an HK handgun, but we don't know how he'll transport it up here. We were hoping for some suggestions or ideas, thanks.

01-20-2004, 07:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
hrdwareguy "Officer, I was in fear for my life" Location: Oklahoma City	Like SuperMidget said, check the policy of the train and if they don't have a policy agains it, lock it and back it with him. If they do have a policy against it, instead of mailing it via ffl and paying them to do it. Take the gun apart. Put some of the parts in one box and the rest in a second box and ship them via UPS. This way you are shipping parts which is not against the law. __________________ Gun Control is hitting what you aim at Aim for the TFP, Donate Today

01-20-2004, 12:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
hrdwareguy "Officer, I was in fear for my life" Location: Oklahoma City	I just sent my gun back. Stuck it in a box, sent it 2nd day air, didn't mark the box at all. Got there just fine. __________________ Gun Control is hitting what you aim at Aim for the TFP, Donate Today

01-20-2004, 12:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	NOTE! It is legal to ship guns to yourself; you do NOT need to ship them FFL to FFL. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

01-20-2004, 07:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
SuperMidget Banned Location: Farm country, South Dakota	Assuming he can legally possess it in RI, to transport it, put it in a locked gun case, and keep ammo in a seperate locked container. Throw the locked cases in his suitcase and take it on the train with him. Unless the train has a policy against firearms, (make sure to check this out). If the train company has rules against it, the only option would be to either drive, or have an FFL ship it to another FFL near you in RI. For RI firearms laws: http://www.packing.org/states.jsp (I think I covered everything, maybe someone will correct me, or think of something I forgot)

01-20-2004, 07:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	I would suggest shipping the firearm via UPS Prior to him coming, Amtrak prohibits weapons aboard their trains.

01-20-2004, 08:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Actually, I don't think you need to take it apart. I believe UPS will allow you to ship a firearm if you tell them, they'll package it specially, and you won't have to worry about anything getting lost.

01-20-2004, 09:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
Fallon Junkie Location: RI	Herm, thank you all for the resources and stuff. And goddamn Rhode Island, and their "We don't really give out permits anymore" attitude. I'll have to talk to my friend about it, but all of us don't really want him to get rid of it.

01-20-2004, 11:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
MrFuzzy469 Banned	When I have shipped my gun back to the manufacturer, they told me to send it UPS Next Day Air and mark it as "sporting goods." I did not have any problems. You might think about that.

01-22-2004, 07:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
blockmaan2000 Crazy	I concur, have your friend ship it from himself to himself. block