Summertime methods of concealed carrying - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

zfleebin · 09-28-2003, 06:44 PM

SO, I have eighty days till my ccw permit gets here and I am starting to decide how to carry. I live in Colorado so winter carry will be easy with my bigjackets but I am left wondering how to carry during the summer. I have a S&W model 469 which has a doublestack magazine so its a bit wide but is still pretty compact. I would like to go with an inside the pants holster but I am still pretty open minded. My question for those who carry semi autos(keltech excluded) is how you carry during the summer (be as specific as you like) and what rig you use. Thanks in advance for replies

Lebell · 09-28-2003, 08:17 PM

Well, odd you should bring the topic up.

Truthfully, I haven't found a good solution yet for my Keltec P11, but the upper (watch) pocket of my jeans actually holds my pistol high, fairly secure and with just the right amount showing for a decent draw time.

Other than that, I am still looking for solutions.

I have found an interesting site that has a belly holster that looks like it might work:

http://www.smartcarry.com/index.htm

Anyway, let me know if you come up with something that works.

im2smrt4u · 09-28-2003, 09:55 PM

The most popular solution I've heard of is carrying IWB, strong side, towards your back, with a shirt covering the exposed portion of the grip. Simply reach under the shirt and draw.

hrdwareguy · 09-29-2003, 02:36 PM

I've got one of these guys here:

http://www.pagerpal.com/

Works well unless you are a larger person (belly size that is) like me. Anything that has over a 3.5 to 4 in barrel can be a little hard to draw also.

Lebell · 09-29-2003, 11:30 PM

I looked at the pager pal and may give it a try.

Unfortunately, I am also of 'larger' size

hrdwareguy · 09-30-2003, 12:15 PM

It's hard to pull the pager pall streight up when it has to get around relaxed table muscle.

WarWagon · 09-30-2003, 12:24 PM

If wearing shorts, I use a thigh holster over my boxers, under my shorts, or if using deep pockets I'll put it in there.

vanbeast · 10-03-2003, 10:58 PM

Thigh holster under the shorts is a very interesting idea I've never thought of.... hmm. Might have to give that a shot!

im2smrt4u · 10-04-2003, 06:39 AM

Check this out. It just goes to show that you can conceal ANYTHING even without much on!

http://www.selfdefenseforums.com/for...&threadid=1974

G5_Todd · 10-10-2003, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by im2smrt4u
Check this out. It just goes to show that you can conceal ANYTHING even without much on!

http://www.selfdefenseforums.com/for...&threadid=1974

that guy is nuts......

no reason for that much crap....

i would like to see him ride around in a car for 8 hours with all the crap along his waste and not get a hell of a back pain

im2smrt4u · 10-10-2003, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G5_Todd
that guy is nuts......

no reason for that much crap....

i would like to see him ride around in a car for 8 hours with all the crap along his waste and not get a hell of a back pain

*Waist

BTW, he says he wore that for 14 hours that day.

G5_Todd · 10-10-2003, 09:00 AM

most first feeling would be to say he is full of shit.....

no pd is going to let you carry all that crap......if he rolls with someone whats to stop that revo in his waste band from falling to the ground......

a guy that has that many weapons is just looking for an excuse to use one....

cool link thou......it was nuts seeing that post

kel · 10-10-2003, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G5_Todd
most first feeling would be to say he is full of shit.....

no pd is going to let you carry all that crap......if he rolls with someone whats to stop that revo in his waste band from falling to the ground......

a guy that has that many weapons is just looking for an excuse to use one....

cool link thou......it was nuts seeing that post

The person in the photo's was a police officer. This officer also has gone undercover on cocaine deals, so he is slightly crazy I am sure :-)

im2smrt4u · 10-10-2003, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kel
The person in the photo's was a police officer. This officer also has gone undercover on cocaine deals, so he is slightly crazy I am sure :-)

Agreed, he might be a little nuts to do the work he does, but he knows his stuff.

I doubt he carries all that every day, but that post just shows that even in warm weather, you should be able to conceal anything!

Blistex · 10-11-2003, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G5_Todd
most first feeling would be to say he is full of shit.....

a guy that has that many weapons is just looking for an excuse to use one....

Ignoring the fact he's a cop, anyone who carries outside the hood or the target range should really invest in those penis enlarging pills or grow up.

I'm an avid hunter and have no issues with handguns for home defense or target shooting, but private citizens carrying in the streets is something you'd expect in Somolia or Chechnya not a G7 nation (or is it G8 now?).

G5_Todd · 10-11-2003, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by im2smrt4u
Agreed, he might be a little nuts to do the work he does, but he knows his stuff.

I doubt he carries all that every day, but that post just shows that even in warm weather, you should be able to conceal anything!

point taken

im2smrt4u · 10-11-2003, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blistex
Ignoring the fact he's a cop, anyone who carries outside the hood or the target range should really invest in those penis enlarging pills or grow up.

I'm an avid hunter and have no issues with handguns for home defense or target shooting, but private citizens carrying in the streets is something you'd expect in Somolia or Chechnya not a G7 nation (or is it G8 now?).

Why do you say that? While we may not be a third world country, that doesn't mean there isn't crime. In fact, there are some areas (particularly in major cities) where crime might be just as bad as some of the seedier places of the world.

Statistically, you are unlikely to ever need to defend yourself with a handgun, but what happens if you are the lucky one that does get attacked and you have nothing to defend yourself with?

I'd rather carry and never have to use it than risk not carrying and becoming a 5-second blurb on the 11-o-clock news.

zfleebin · 10-11-2003, 01:32 PM

Blistex: take it to politics and try and be more mature next time.

Lebell · 10-11-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blistex
Ignoring the fact he's a cop, anyone who carries outside the hood or the target range should really invest in those penis enlarging pills or grow up.

I'm an avid hunter and have no issues with handguns for home defense or target shooting, but private citizens carrying in the streets is something you'd expect in Somolia or Chechnya not a G7 nation (or is it G8 now?).

Thanks for you opinion.

I guess I'll have to grow up someday then, but not today...

(<----CCW holder

)

Slims · 10-13-2003, 06:37 PM

Personally, I think having more weapons than you can keep control over is silly.

I can see having a knife, a main handgun, possibly a backup gun, and maybe pepperspray as well.

But by having all that gear (six knives?) there is no way he would be able to keep control over it in a scuffle. A (previously) unarmed assailant could very easily get ahold of one of his weapons without his knowledge or realization until it is too late.

He is over-equipping himself to the point where his extra weapons are becoming liabilities.

I think he needs to remember the old acronym KISS.

G5_Todd · 10-13-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg700
Personally, I think having more weapons than you can keep control over is silly.

i agree

Slims · 10-14-2003, 09:51 AM

Oops, I forgot to mention my summer carry methods.

I wear pants or shorts with a good belt and an IWB holster (I use a FIST K1 Universal) with an undershirt to keep the holster from sticking to my skin and a thick, loose button up shirt over everything.

It works great, and I haven't had any problems, even though I carry a fairly large weapon (USP compact) and I absolutely can't afford for people to notice that I carry.

tekaweni · 10-14-2003, 12:17 PM

You arent allowed to conceal your weapons?

In SA it's illegal to carry unless they <b>are</b> concealed.

Irony or what?

Buzz · 11-13-2003, 10:43 AM

I use a fanny pack. It holds my firearm and walet and other stuff.

Moonduck · 11-13-2003, 07:26 PM

Reading the thread shows that the poster carried that much simply to prove that it can be done in summertime clothing. That said, the most common, and effective, method I've seen and used is a loose outer shirt, untucked, over an inner shirt, tucked, with gun attached to waistband, usually via a holster inside the waistband. It's dead easy, though I try to carry something with a bobbed grip so as to help avoid printing in the outer shirt.

MrFuzzy469 · 12-08-2003, 09:46 PM

My best sucess is with IWB holster with a loose outer shirt. I like Galco holsers, I think are about the best money can buy. (www.usgalco.com) I have carred a full size Beretta 92 in Indiana durring the summertime this way.

Cheack this out it might help as well:

Some artilces by Massad Ayoob one of the best gun writters around.

Ayoob on Firearms: Picking a holster
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0B.../article.jhtml

Concealed Carry Clothing.
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0B.../article.jhtml

09-28-2003, 06:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	Summertime methods of concealed carrying SO, I have eighty days till my ccw permit gets here and I am starting to decide how to carry. I live in Colorado so winter carry will be easy with my bigjackets but I am left wondering how to carry during the summer. I have a S&W model 469 which has a doublestack magazine so its a bit wide but is still pretty compact. I would like to go with an inside the pants holster but I am still pretty open minded. My question for those who carry semi autos(keltech excluded) is how you carry during the summer (be as specific as you like) and what rig you use. Thanks in advance for replies

09-28-2003, 08:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Well, odd you should bring the topic up. Truthfully, I haven't found a good solution yet for my Keltec P11, but the upper (watch) pocket of my jeans actually holds my pistol high, fairly secure and with just the right amount showing for a decent draw time. Other than that, I am still looking for solutions. I have found an interesting site that has a belly holster that looks like it might work: http://www.smartcarry.com/index.htm Anyway, let me know if you come up with something that works. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

09-28-2003, 09:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
im2smrt4u Beer Aficionado Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA	The most popular solution I've heard of is carrying IWB, strong side, towards your back, with a shirt covering the exposed portion of the grip. Simply reach under the shirt and draw. __________________ Starkizzer Fan Club - President & Founder

09-29-2003, 02:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
hrdwareguy "Officer, I was in fear for my life" Location: Oklahoma City	I've got one of these guys here: http://www.pagerpal.com/ Works well unless you are a larger person (belly size that is) like me. Anything that has over a 3.5 to 4 in barrel can be a little hard to draw also. __________________ Gun Control is hitting what you aim at Aim for the TFP, Donate Today

09-29-2003, 11:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	I looked at the pager pal and may give it a try. Unfortunately, I am also of 'larger' size __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

09-30-2003, 12:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
hrdwareguy "Officer, I was in fear for my life" Location: Oklahoma City	It's hard to pull the pager pall streight up when it has to get around relaxed table muscle. __________________ Gun Control is hitting what you aim at Aim for the TFP, Donate Today

09-30-2003, 12:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
WarWagon Loser	If wearing shorts, I use a thigh holster over my boxers, under my shorts, or if using deep pockets I'll put it in there.

10-03-2003, 10:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
vanbeast Tilted Location: Corvallis, OR	Thigh holster under the shorts is a very interesting idea I've never thought of.... hmm. Might have to give that a shot!

10-04-2003, 06:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
im2smrt4u Beer Aficionado Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA	Check this out. It just goes to show that you can conceal ANYTHING even without much on! http://www.selfdefenseforums.com/for...&threadid=1974 __________________ Starkizzer Fan Club - President & Founder

10-10-2003, 09:00 AM	#12 (permalink)
G5_Todd Junkie Location: Reichstag	most first feeling would be to say he is full of shit..... no pd is going to let you carry all that crap......if he rolls with someone whats to stop that revo in his waste band from falling to the ground...... a guy that has that many weapons is just looking for an excuse to use one.... cool link thou......it was nuts seeing that post __________________ "....and when you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." -General Franks

10-11-2003, 01:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	Blistex: take it to politics and try and be more mature next time.

10-13-2003, 06:37 PM	#20 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	Personally, I think having more weapons than you can keep control over is silly. I can see having a knife, a main handgun, possibly a backup gun, and maybe pepperspray as well. But by having all that gear (six knives?) there is no way he would be able to keep control over it in a scuffle. A (previously) unarmed assailant could very easily get ahold of one of his weapons without his knowledge or realization until it is too late. He is over-equipping himself to the point where his extra weapons are becoming liabilities. I think he needs to remember the old acronym KISS. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

10-14-2003, 09:51 AM	#22 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	Oops, I forgot to mention my summer carry methods. I wear pants or shorts with a good belt and an IWB holster (I use a FIST K1 Universal) with an undershirt to keep the holster from sticking to my skin and a thick, loose button up shirt over everything. It works great, and I haven't had any problems, even though I carry a fairly large weapon (USP compact) and I absolutely can't afford for people to notice that I carry. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

10-14-2003, 12:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
tekaweni It wasnt me Location: Scotland	You arent allowed to conceal your weapons? In SA it's illegal to carry unless they <b>are</b> concealed. Irony or what? __________________ If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten

11-13-2003, 10:43 AM	#24 (permalink)
Buzz Addict Location: Earth	I use a fanny pack. It holds my firearm and walet and other stuff. __________________ The Only BEER is a Cold BEER. And a Single Malt will get ya every time.

11-13-2003, 07:26 PM	#25 (permalink)
Moonduck Junkie Location: SE USA	Reading the thread shows that the poster carried that much simply to prove that it can be done in summertime clothing. That said, the most common, and effective, method I've seen and used is a loose outer shirt, untucked, over an inner shirt, tucked, with gun attached to waistband, usually via a holster inside the waistband. It's dead easy, though I try to carry something with a bobbed grip so as to help avoid printing in the outer shirt.

12-08-2003, 09:46 PM	#26 (permalink)
MrFuzzy469 Banned	My best sucess is with IWB holster with a loose outer shirt. I like Galco holsers, I think are about the best money can buy. (www.usgalco.com) I have carred a full size Beretta 92 in Indiana durring the summertime this way. Cheack this out it might help as well: Some artilces by Massad Ayoob one of the best gun writters around. Ayoob on Firearms: Picking a holster http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0B.../article.jhtml Concealed Carry Clothing. http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0B.../article.jhtml Last edited by MrFuzzy469; 12-08-2003 at 09:49 PM..