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So I temporarily own a drum fed Mossberg pump shotgun...pics inside
http://i.imgur.com/MQPRz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a3dBl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/chwMg.jpg My actual photographer wife likes to poke fun that I think I'm a photographer now but hey, a little artsy blurring never hurt anyone. Here's some more clinical pics with a point-and-shoot after the DSLR ran out of batteries: http://i.imgur.com/oLf6U.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FzKRa.jpg I say 'temporarily own' because I got a smoking deal on it, and just bought it to flip on gunbroker for twice what I paid...took these photos for the listing, haven't even shot it. Round count explanation: It's a 10 round drum, but because of the design, you can load the gun +2, for a total of 12: One in the chamber and one in the mag tube before you seat the drum. |
purty. whats it worth?
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They don't make the kit anymore, and never made it in very high volumes. Looking at ended auctions on gunbroker, just the kit with the drum has sold for $700, and installed on they gun they've gone for as high as $1100. Normal prices are at least $700-800 for the kit installed on an OK gun.
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man.... that is sweet! I miss my mossberg hand cannon.
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Nice. 12 Rounds of shotgun power. How does it handle?
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OK, I bought it to add to my personal collection because it was a good deal, and I was secure in the knowledge that once I was done having it be a part of my personal collection, it would not lose value when I sold it. |
According to ATF, selling a gun for profit technically puts you in the "selling guns for a living" catagory, ie Dealer, for which you need an FFL. It's rare, but people have been arrested and imprisoned for "dealing without a license" for flipping guns without an FFL.
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Could you all speak louder? Into my lapel, perhaps?
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I though that you had to be in the business of selling guns to get caught up in that- if its one gun, its hardly a business- still the atf is basically a bunch of rabid bastards that go after law abiding citizens with great gusto, so anything is possible....
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You're talking about an agency that has classified 14" pieces of string tied to keyrings as machine guns.
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Well, that settles it then. Now I want a friend to get one so I can play with it, without worrying about finding replacement parts.
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But will it kill zombies?
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/I got nothing |
Yeah, I'm totally off the shotgun wagon. There isn't anything a home defense shotgun can do that a good 5.56mm carbine can't do better.
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Honestly I'd prefer a carbine, but the bank account says clackety-clack for now. |
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It's not a question, for me, of capability, but one of trigger time. I have a range LITERALLY across the street where I can shoot pistol caliber. I have to drive an hour to get somewhere I can satisfactorily play with a shotgun. Guess which range I go to more frequently? I'd much rather have a couple thousand rounds down my bump-in-the-night device than only a few hundred. |
I've got a Sub-2000 in 9mm (Beretta M9 mags)... but something tells me you want the Glock variant so go with your current inventory.
If you're going to do the 9mm carbine thing and don't mind using another type of magazine, the Marlin Camp Carbine 9 is a really good. I've had one for years. It's old school durable (tough as hell construction) and uses S&W 59-series magazines. Very red dot friendly. Quote:
00 buckshot will penetrate more drywall than 55 grain FMJ lead core 5.56mm. Google "Box of Truth" and check out the various penetration tests. It's good stuff. I too once believed the shotgun was the best thing ever. Turns out it's hype. |
Actually, Plan, I'm looking for the Beretta one...or any of the non-glock 9mms, they swap freely with a $2 mag catch. You can shave .120" off the bottom of the grip and they'll take XD mags, if you notch the mags for the Beretta catch. Since my full size right now (and to perpetuity, likely) is an XD-9 Tactical, this seems pretty convenient--the Glock is now my Dad's, as I couldn't get used to the grip angle.
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Yeah, I was aware that the metal mag tube models change from S&W to Beretta to Sig with the use of an Allen wrench on the right side of the pistol grip. I was going to change my Sub-2000's mag catch to use S&W 5 mags so the Marlin Camp 9 would share the 30-rounders I've got here.
... I'm not able to make a sale right now but it could be in your future. The gun is far from cherry... it's been used at the range quite a bit. Let's talk later this summer. |
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Also, put the 30 rounders next to the Beretta and see if they mag catch notches are distinct...you might be able to dremel notch your 30's to work with your existing catch. If not, it's literally a $1.85 part (and that's shipped!) Kel-Tec CNC - SUB-2000 Parts - SR-205 Mag Catch |
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I don't get paid to be humorous. I get paid to dispel bullshit firearm legends like the one involving the 12g being the best home defense gun ever.
... Tele: Yeaaah, I'm not going to WECSOG (mangle) perfectly good metal magazines with a Dremel cutting wheel when I can replace the catch for cheap. I bought the thing before my Glock days. Now that I've gone Glock, there is no going back to metal pistols and I have little interest in a fold-up 9mm carbine when I can afford SBR ARs. The Sub-2000 is a cool concept but it's clearly just the Tec-9 of the 2000s. We'll talk about a sale this summer. Ugh, I must be in a pissy mood tonight because I feel like I should tell you that I own numerous S&W, Beretta and Sig pistols and that the "universal metal mag" concept has dawned on me a few times before. My urge to choke a random bitch aside, have you looked at AR-style 9mm carbines? |
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For the build quality and the price point, I'm viewing it as a 16" barrel pistol with a stock...whereas if I'm going to get a rifle, I'll get it in a rifle caliber. An HD SBR and a varmint build are on my 'when i have teh monies' list. |
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