xxash2003xx

im thinking of buying a 2nd hand co2 beretta ber03 sport pistol,8 shot .177 pellet only gun.just wundering if anybody has one and wat are they like?it says average of 300fps wich isnt to good is it?im lukin at shooting in my garden realy n mainly just for fun.how powerfull is 300fps?will it shoot through a glass bottle, n if so how far away from?are berettas known to be good?thank you ppl . . . ash

Suave

300 fps is not particularly good, no (although it's not terrible either). Air guns often fire up to 500 fps, and some of the most powerful even go upwards of 1000.

As a matter of safety though, I suggest you avoid shooting glass bottles.

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Yeah, shoot paper targets or cans or squirrels or aliens or sabretooth tigers... ya know, whatever...

Do refrain from shooting things that are a pain to clean up / land you in jail.

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xxash2003xx

yeh but wat kind of power am i expecting from a 300 fps beretta?would it pierce a bean can from 30 feet?pierce a tree?examples please thankyou very much....

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how old are you?

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debaser

You might make it through a cardboard box at 30 ft, if it was wet. 300 fps in a .177 pellet is not very powerful.

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NOTE: I blow a load at 650 FPS.

Hah... just imagine putting THAT in a chronograph.

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or a bean can for that matter...

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What exactly are you looking for here? REAL target shooting without the hassles of gun ownership? Or just something to dink around with in your free time?

If its just something for you to blow off steam with, 300fps will be fine. Keep in mind tho, thats more than enough to break a window.


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xxash2003xx

thank you...im 20 and jus wanted sumfin to mess bout wiv, target shoot in the garden, shoot cans etc etc and jus wanted an idea of how powerfull 300fps is, i dnt wana b violent, but 4 saftey reasons....would it pierce skin?

Plan9

HAHAHAHA!

I was going to do that. Not that picture, but you get the idea.

Red Ryder: It can destroy tanks. It can kill armies. Just pump and shoot.

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xxash2003xx

so how far away u reckon it cud pierce a been can from????????

any1?lol

moot1337

I used to shoot cans in my back yard with a Daisy Quicksilver - IIRC it was around 300 fps also... if you use pointed/round pellets it'll go through soda cans, or probably get caught inside steel ones. Might bounce off, might not... it's definitely enough to pierce skin at close range, and remember lead is a toxic substance. If you need more kick out of it, try the Beeman gold colored pellets... they're made of some kind of light weight alloy for higher FPS. From a 177 pellet out of a pistol I'd expect 400 fps, though. 300 has quite an arc to it from across the yard.

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longbough

Get a Beeman Tempest


spring piston action (no CO2 to buy) and pushes almost 500fps

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Ohhhh. that should go in the ugliest gun thread...

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Haha you look at the vast majority of target and free pistol airguns and they're ugly as fuck.

Honestly, ash, just go with something that'll get you 450+ fps. They're entirely safe when used properly (as most things are). I wouldn't use them in my backyard, but I wouldn't use a 300 fps air pistol in my backyard either (I'm talking inner city, 800 sq ft backyard though, not something more rural).

Generally, if it's safe to use a 300 fps airgun, it's probably safe to use a higher-powered one (with the exception of the really high-powered 800+ fps ones). in the same area.

Regarding the spring gun: I would personally avoid it. When you're shooting something as small as pellets or bbs it's almost invariably going to be for plinking (with the occasional person murdering small animals as well), and the fun of plinking is multiple shots - to me anyway. For a pistol I would recommend a more powerful CO2 weapon.

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longbough

that's not as ugly as these ... c'mon

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