Um...what do you do with an ak-47? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Villar perosa · 12-31-2006, 08:04 PM

I got this AK-47 from some bushes (couldnt tell you how in the hell it got there) and,being stupid, I hid the thing in my coat and flew back home. Now I am wondering how the fuck do I get rid of it. I considered throwing it away but a garbage man might see it, and I am far too afraid to take outside, even in my coat, to put it in some other dumpster. So I am stuck with this fucking thing hoping no body else sees this damn thing. What the fuck do I do?

MexicanOnABike · 12-31-2006, 08:25 PM

wow. where do you live where you can find a gun in the bush?! intense. i would take it to the cops. Call 1st and inform them you found it and wish to get rid of it. they'll give you the proper ways to do this. or dissasemble it and get rid of 1 piece a day. ? seeing as it could be a murder weapon, you wouldnt want to keep it where it could be found with your prints all over.

Etarip · 12-31-2006, 08:42 PM

What country is this in? You're location says Dubai so the UAE mabey?

Dilbert1234567 · 12-31-2006, 08:43 PM

Call the cops, say you’re an idiot and need to get rid of a gun you found. You may get in some trouble, but not nearly as much as if you try to hid it and get caught.

Jimellow · 12-31-2006, 08:56 PM

Definitely seems like a poor decision. Now you are connected to the gun, in a sense.

I'd notify the authorities, providing they can be trusted in such matters.

If you don't want to notify the authorities, I suppose you could wipe it clean and put it back where you found it, or throw it in a desolate body of water somewhere.

MexicanOnABike · 12-31-2006, 09:49 PM

or sell it on Ebay.

Villar perosa · 01-01-2007, 03:13 AM

Maybe it would be a good idea to put back in the bushes...but if a gang gets ahold of it that would much worse so i guess i will kall the authorities.

This is a pic of the thing. Thats not the pic of the ak i have this uis a pic i got from internet largley because my cameras are busted and how do you expect me to have a full sized ak in my fucking coat?

Manorfire · 01-01-2007, 04:52 AM

If you are located in Dubai, then I can't really give you any specific advice. I don't know enough about that country's legal or social standpoints. Points you should consider though -

* How long you've had the gun.
* Whether you have any criminal history.
* Further implications if it's evidence in a crime (are there any possible related news events lately?).
* How professional and fair the police force is, especially forensics.
* Your civil responsibilities, especially to safety and justice.
* Whether getting legal advice would help.

It could be that you've committed a crime already by removing the gun. I expect that disposing of the gun would certainly be a crime and if they found the gun, your story of how you came by it would seem unbelievable. Putting the gun back in the bushes risks being seen and looking guilty. Besides, traces of you are bound to remain (even after cleaning). It's also very irresponsible.

If a friend (in England) found a gun, I'd tell them not to touch it again and immediately ring their local police station for somebody to come over. My friend would probably get arrested, but as all the evidence at that point should fit with their story, they should get it sorted out eventually. The police here would probably be more interested in retrieving the gun, and potentially solving a much more serious crime, though I guess they might face a charge of tampering with evidence.

You need to act swiftly, but keep a cool head or things could get a lot worse. Don't sell it or give it to somebody else, that would be very stupid. You should take responsibility for your actions here on in, but as I don't live in Dubai, I don't now what the consequences will be.

ziadel · 01-01-2007, 09:49 AM

hide it in case you need it, wrap it and bury it and never speak of it ever again to anybody.

that thing might be mighty handy some day.

and I'd delete this thread.

edit:

ok, I've thought about this a bit more, I don't know much about Dubai, but from what little I'm gathering, it's not the worst place to live in the middle east by any means, are you a citizen? I'm not sure what kind of rights Dubai recognizes, but if your afraid of having this gun, the easiest way to get rid of it would be an oxy-acetylene cutting torch, if you could rent one somewhere, shouldnt cost much. Or a Sawz-All with a metal blade (it would take quite a few blades actually) but that would do it, it would just take more time....

but seriously, if I were you, I would follow my first line of advice.

longbough · 01-01-2007, 10:31 AM

Why would you ask us Americans about what to do?
None of us have sufficient knowledge about the cultural, legal or practical ramifications of finding such an item much less what to do with it.

Willravel · 01-01-2007, 10:49 AM

Prop it up and fill the barrel with flowers. No one will be the wiser.

Slims · 01-01-2007, 11:29 AM

You might want to start by unloading it...

If you decide to get rid of it you can take it apart. If you are really worried you can take a hacksaw to the receiver after you have dissassembled the rifle. Should fit nicely into a backpack then.

Edited to say that this sounds like something out of grand theft auto.

The_Dunedan · 01-01-2007, 12:00 PM

Cache it, destroy it, or turn it in.

If you cache it, never tell anyone. EVER. Even aside from Gov't-related considerations, loose lips sink ships and attract thieves.

If you destroy it, destroy it completely and never tell anyone. EVER. If possible, melt the barrel, bolt assembly, bolt-carrier, and fire-control parts, plus anything else that has a serial number. Failing this, disassemble it down to the pins and springs, smash the wood, and drop the metal parts into -seperate- bodies of the deepest water you can find. In Dubai, getting in a boat and going for a spin might be adviseable, since you don't have lakes or rivers to distribute the pieces in.

If you decide to turn it in, call the police and honestly explain your situation. Do this, however, anonymously and from a payphone or call-centre. Ask what you should do to legally surrender the gun you found, but do not tell them your name. Even better would be to get a lawyer, ask his advice, and proceed from there. That way, if you -do- end up in trouble, you're already "lawyered up" and have some advantage.*

*I am not terribly knowledgeable about your specific situation in Dubai, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. For purposes of law, this should not be construed as legal advice.

Jinn · 01-01-2007, 12:26 PM

The_Dunedan offers excellent advice, ... that is, if I believed this weren't just a bogus thread.

longbough · 01-01-2007, 03:41 PM

I'm surprised nobody considered what's going to happen when the SOB who stashed it in the bushes comes looking for his toy?

Is it a blackmarket item from a crook? Or does it belong to some negligent officer who lost it when it flopped out of his flatbed when he hit a bump?

What happens when someone tells him, "Yeah I saw some kid the other day with something under his coat. He lives over there."?

The police and certainly criminals in some countries are probably not as open minded to take your good will into consideration if you were to turn it in. I can't guarantee that turning in the weapon to authorities would be the smart thing to do. The dumb part was when you took it home. I'd bury it if I were you. Don't destroy it in case its rightful owner finds you.

ziadel · 01-01-2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longbough

I'm surprised nobody considered what's going to happen when the SOB who stashed it in the bushes comes looking for his toy?

yes I did, he now has the means to aerate said SOB....

John Falcon · 01-02-2007, 07:42 AM

Should have taken it to a "Guns for Toys" exchange.

debaser · 01-02-2007, 06:59 PM

It's an AK in the middle east. Wipe your prints off of it and leave it another bush for some other poor schlep to "find".

I'm with JinnKai.

Willy · 01-07-2007, 09:35 AM

Longbough is right. You're not likely to get good advice here because nobody here knows enough about society in Dubai to comment.

If the UAE is like most middle-eastern countries (but in many ways it is definitely NOT) an AK47 is probably not that uncommon, but I don't think you're going to get much relevant advice here.

Zooksport2 · 02-02-2007, 11:26 PM

Smash it, then put it back in a bush. Any Bush.....

Esoteric · 02-04-2007, 08:39 AM

AK-47: When you absolutely, positively have to kill every motherfucker in the room. Accept no substitutes.

I agree with the other posters that said get rid of it. I don't think it's really worth the trouble, imo.

ASU2003 · 02-04-2007, 11:15 AM

I would buy a good case (that locks) and hide it. Either underground or under your bed. But, you have to be sure that nobody else finds it.

Or you could sell it part by part to an anonymous person on-line. I wouldn't mind having an ak-47.

Although it is a 10 year jail sentence in the US for having an unregistered gun I think.

desal75 · 02-05-2007, 04:25 PM

Do they have eBay there?

j/k

cadre · 02-05-2007, 08:15 PM

Hey, whoa..back up. You need to either a) not touch it or b) (only if you know how) disarm it, the last thing you want is one of those going off near you. You definately need to take it to the police because let's think about why this thing was in a bush (ie - it's a dirty gun meaning it was used in a crime). If you turn it in you'll probably get in a little trouble but it would be much worse if police ended up finding you with this gun and accusing you of whatever crime it was used in.

I don't know what the law is where you are but in many countries it is illegal to have an ak in your possesion so I'd try to remember that.

edit: I know nothing about Dubai, just my disclaimer.

ItWasMe · 04-21-2007, 09:14 PM

You could also wipe all prints off, put it back, then call in an anonymous tip to the police.

Willravel · 04-21-2007, 09:19 PM

The kid's been gone since the end of March.

Plaid13 · 04-23-2007, 06:58 AM

Even if he is gone now its a interesting topic. What do you do if you find a gun. Any gun really not just a AK 47. Here in the US it would be kinda odd to find a gun laying anywhere. But what would everyone do if you did find one? Depending on where it was and how far away kids are i would most likely just call the cops from my cell and wait for them to show up to come get the thing. If it was way out in the middle of nowhere i would most likely just call the cops tell them where it was and walk away before the owner of it saw me there.

Willravel · 04-23-2007, 07:20 AM

What do yo do? Don't touch it and report it to the police. No matter where you are, that's that.

longbough · 04-23-2007, 05:28 PM

[sarcasm]Don't touch it. Walk away slowly and look for an adult. Then let them know you found a gun.[/sarcasm]

If this were in the US I probably wouldn't touch it if only for the possibility of getting my fingerprints on it. A weapon tossed in the bushes might have just been used in a crime.

tricks · 05-05-2007, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

The kid's been gone since the end of March.

You all missed the most shocking part of the story, i think.

"I hid the thing in my coat and flew back home."

On an airplane. His airplane? Probably not.

Hmmmmmmm

12-31-2006, 08:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Villar perosa Loser Location: Dubai	Um...what do you do with an ak-47? I got this AK-47 from some bushes (couldnt tell you how in the hell it got there) and,being stupid, I hid the thing in my coat and flew back home. Now I am wondering how the fuck do I get rid of it. I considered throwing it away but a garbage man might see it, and I am far too afraid to take outside, even in my coat, to put it in some other dumpster. So I am stuck with this fucking thing hoping no body else sees this damn thing. What the fuck do I do?

12-31-2006, 08:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	wow. where do you live where you can find a gun in the bush?! intense. i would take it to the cops. Call 1st and inform them you found it and wish to get rid of it. they'll give you the proper ways to do this. or dissasemble it and get rid of 1 piece a day. ? seeing as it could be a murder weapon, you wouldnt want to keep it where it could be found with your prints all over. __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

12-31-2006, 08:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	Call the cops, say you’re an idiot and need to get rid of a gun you found. You may get in some trouble, but not nearly as much as if you try to hid it and get caught. __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

12-31-2006, 08:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jimellow Junkie	Definitely seems like a poor decision. Now you are connected to the gun, in a sense. I'd notify the authorities, providing they can be trusted in such matters. If you don't want to notify the authorities, I suppose you could wipe it clean and put it back where you found it, or throw it in a desolate body of water somewhere. __________________ Desperation is no excuse for lowering one's standards.

12-31-2006, 09:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	or sell it on Ebay. __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

12-31-2006, 08:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Etarip Tilted	What country is this in? You're location says Dubai so the UAE mabey?

01-01-2007, 03:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
Villar perosa Loser Location: Dubai	Maybe it would be a good idea to put back in the bushes...but if a gang gets ahold of it that would much worse so i guess i will kall the authorities. This is a pic of the thing. Thats not the pic of the ak i have this uis a pic i got from internet largley because my cameras are busted and how do you expect me to have a full sized ak in my fucking coat? Last edited by Villar perosa; 01-01-2007 at 03:28 AM..

01-01-2007, 04:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
Manorfire Upright Location: England	If you are located in Dubai, then I can't really give you any specific advice. I don't know enough about that country's legal or social standpoints. Points you should consider though - * How long you've had the gun. * Whether you have any criminal history. * Further implications if it's evidence in a crime (are there any possible related news events lately?). * How professional and fair the police force is, especially forensics. * Your civil responsibilities, especially to safety and justice. * Whether getting legal advice would help. It could be that you've committed a crime already by removing the gun. I expect that disposing of the gun would certainly be a crime and if they found the gun, your story of how you came by it would seem unbelievable. Putting the gun back in the bushes risks being seen and looking guilty. Besides, traces of you are bound to remain (even after cleaning). It's also very irresponsible. If a friend (in England) found a gun, I'd tell them not to touch it again and immediately ring their local police station for somebody to come over. My friend would probably get arrested, but as all the evidence at that point should fit with their story, they should get it sorted out eventually. The police here would probably be more interested in retrieving the gun, and potentially solving a much more serious crime, though I guess they might face a charge of tampering with evidence. You need to act swiftly, but keep a cool head or things could get a lot worse. Don't sell it or give it to somebody else, that would be very stupid. You should take responsibility for your actions here on in, but as I don't live in Dubai, I don't now what the consequences will be.

01-01-2007, 09:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	hide it in case you need it, wrap it and bury it and never speak of it ever again to anybody. that thing might be mighty handy some day. and I'd delete this thread. edit: ok, I've thought about this a bit more, I don't know much about Dubai, but from what little I'm gathering, it's not the worst place to live in the middle east by any means, are you a citizen? I'm not sure what kind of rights Dubai recognizes, but if your afraid of having this gun, the easiest way to get rid of it would be an oxy-acetylene cutting torch, if you could rent one somewhere, shouldnt cost much. Or a Sawz-All with a metal blade (it would take quite a few blades actually) but that would do it, it would just take more time.... but seriously, if I were you, I would follow my first line of advice. __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read. Last edited by ziadel; 01-01-2007 at 09:58 AM..

01-01-2007, 10:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	Why would you ask us Americans about what to do? None of us have sufficient knowledge about the cultural, legal or practical ramifications of finding such an item much less what to do with it. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi

01-01-2007, 10:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Prop it up and fill the barrel with flowers. No one will be the wiser.

01-01-2007, 11:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	You might want to start by unloading it... If you decide to get rid of it you can take it apart. If you are really worried you can take a hacksaw to the receiver after you have dissassembled the rifle. Should fit nicely into a backpack then. Edited to say that this sounds like something out of grand theft auto. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

01-01-2007, 12:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
The_Dunedan Junkie	Cache it, destroy it, or turn it in. If you cache it, never tell anyone. EVER. Even aside from Gov't-related considerations, loose lips sink ships and attract thieves. If you destroy it, destroy it completely and never tell anyone. EVER. If possible, melt the barrel, bolt assembly, bolt-carrier, and fire-control parts, plus anything else that has a serial number. Failing this, disassemble it down to the pins and springs, smash the wood, and drop the metal parts into -seperate- bodies of the deepest water you can find. In Dubai, getting in a boat and going for a spin might be adviseable, since you don't have lakes or rivers to distribute the pieces in. If you decide to turn it in, call the police and honestly explain your situation. Do this, however, anonymously and from a payphone or call-centre. Ask what you should do to legally surrender the gun you found, but do not tell them your name. Even better would be to get a lawyer, ask his advice, and proceed from there. That way, if you -do- end up in trouble, you're already "lawyered up" and have some advantage.* *I am not terribly knowledgeable about your specific situation in Dubai, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. For purposes of law, this should not be construed as legal advice.

01-01-2007, 12:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	The_Dunedan offers excellent advice, ... that is, if I believed this weren't just a bogus thread. __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

01-01-2007, 03:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	I'm surprised nobody considered what's going to happen when the SOB who stashed it in the bushes comes looking for his toy? Is it a blackmarket item from a crook? Or does it belong to some negligent officer who lost it when it flopped out of his flatbed when he hit a bump? What happens when someone tells him, "Yeah I saw some kid the other day with something under his coat. He lives over there."? The police and certainly criminals in some countries are probably not as open minded to take your good will into consideration if you were to turn it in. I can't guarantee that turning in the weapon to authorities would be the smart thing to do. The dumb part was when you took it home. I'd bury it if I were you. Don't destroy it in case its rightful owner finds you. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi

02-05-2007, 04:25 PM	#23 (permalink)
desal75 Psycho Location: Western New York	Do they have eBay there? j/k __________________ The Man in Black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed.

01-02-2007, 07:42 AM	#17 (permalink)
John Falcon Psycho Location: New York, CA	Should have taken it to a "Guns for Toys" exchange.

01-02-2007, 06:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
debaser Sir, I have a plan... Location: 38S NC20943324	It's an AK in the middle east. Wipe your prints off of it and leave it another bush for some other poor schlep to "find". I'm with JinnKai. __________________ Fortunato became immured to the sound of the trowel after a while.

01-07-2007, 09:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
Willy Insane	Longbough is right. You're not likely to get good advice here because nobody here knows enough about society in Dubai to comment. If the UAE is like most middle-eastern countries (but in many ways it is definitely NOT) an AK47 is probably not that uncommon, but I don't think you're going to get much relevant advice here.

02-02-2007, 11:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Zooksport2 Casual... Real Casual Location: Orstraylia	Smash it, then put it back in a bush. Any Bush..... __________________ "And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking. Racing around to come up behind you again. The sun is the same in a relative way but your older, shorter of breath, and one day closer to death" ...pink floyd

02-04-2007, 08:39 AM	#21 (permalink)
Esoteric Tired Location: Florida	AK-47: When you absolutely, positively have to kill every motherfucker in the room. Accept no substitutes. I agree with the other posters that said get rid of it. I don't think it's really worth the trouble, imo. __________________ From a head full of pressure rests the senses that I clutch Made a date with Divinity, but she wouldn't let me fuck I got touched by a hazy shaded, God help me change Caught a rush on the floor from the life in my veins

02-04-2007, 11:15 AM	#22 (permalink)
ASU2003 immoral minority Location: Back in Ohio	I would buy a good case (that locks) and hide it. Either underground or under your bed. But, you have to be sure that nobody else finds it. Or you could sell it part by part to an anonymous person on-line. I wouldn't mind having an ak-47. Although it is a 10 year jail sentence in the US for having an unregistered gun I think.

02-05-2007, 08:15 PM	#24 (permalink)
cadre The Worst Influence Location: Arizona	Hey, whoa..back up. You need to either a) not touch it or b) (only if you know how) disarm it, the last thing you want is one of those going off near you. You definately need to take it to the police because let's think about why this thing was in a bush (ie - it's a dirty gun meaning it was used in a crime). If you turn it in you'll probably get in a little trouble but it would be much worse if police ended up finding you with this gun and accusing you of whatever crime it was used in. I don't know what the law is where you are but in many countries it is illegal to have an ak in your possesion so I'd try to remember that. edit: I know nothing about Dubai, just my disclaimer. __________________ My life is one of those 'you had to be there' jokes. Last edited by cadre; 02-05-2007 at 08:21 PM..

04-21-2007, 09:14 PM	#25 (permalink)
ItWasMe But You'll Never Prove It. Location: under your bed	You could also wipe all prints off, put it back, then call in an anonymous tip to the police. __________________ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Ok, no more truth-or-dare until somebody returns my underwear" ~ George Lopez I bake cookies just so I can lick the bowl. ~ ItWasMe

04-21-2007, 09:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	The kid's been gone since the end of March.

04-23-2007, 06:58 AM	#27 (permalink)
Plaid13 I want a Plaid crayon	Even if he is gone now its a interesting topic. What do you do if you find a gun. Any gun really not just a AK 47. Here in the US it would be kinda odd to find a gun laying anywhere. But what would everyone do if you did find one? Depending on where it was and how far away kids are i would most likely just call the cops from my cell and wait for them to show up to come get the thing. If it was way out in the middle of nowhere i would most likely just call the cops tell them where it was and walk away before the owner of it saw me there.

04-23-2007, 07:20 AM	#28 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	What do yo do? Don't touch it and report it to the police. No matter where you are, that's that.

04-23-2007, 05:28 PM	#29 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	[sarcasm]Don't touch it. Walk away slowly and look for an adult. Then let them know you found a gun.[/sarcasm] If this were in the US I probably wouldn't touch it if only for the possibility of getting my fingerprints on it. A weapon tossed in the bushes might have just been used in a crime. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi Last edited by longbough; 04-24-2007 at 06:11 AM..