longbough

Step right up and let's see who can find the ugliest gun.

I know one person's eyesore is another person's eye candy ... but let's see what we can do.




I'll start:

Presenting the EAA Thor single shot pistol:



A 1911 frame topped off with a giant barrel.
Is that a small picatinny rail under the barrel? ... it can't possibly be an aesthetic feature, can it? If you're going to have a monster barrel why don't they just go the full length with that rail?
And check out that stamped logo! What angry grade school delinquent designed that?

I don't doubt it's an excellent gun - it's just damned ugly.
Go ahead and tell me if you think I'm wrong, that's OK, too.


it's your turn.
MUST INCLUDE PICS

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desal75

I know people are going to disagree but I always thought that the Browning autoloader shotguns were fugly with that hump back look.

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Hipoint 9mm Carbine, hands down.

Coppertop

French Chauchat, from the Great War

dksuddeth

the handgun is nasty looking also.

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longbough

Presenting the Mateba revolver.



A recoil-cycling revolver. The idea is that it's supposed to have the reliability of a revolver with the cycling ability of a semi-auto. It's supposed to be pretty accurate.

The problem is that it's bigger and heavier than both the revolver and the autoloader ... on top of that it still has the capacity of a revolver. Not exactly a self-defense weapon.

Above is pictured a Mateba with an integral muzzle brake.

Then there's the French FAMAS ...



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Let's not forget the Gyrojet and Gyrojet Carbine ...

This pistol used rocket propelled rounds (imagine the cost of ammo) ... unfortunately it also had the accuracy of a hocked loogie.

It was even featured in the Bond film "You Only Live Twice." (correct me if I have the wrong film).

The pistol I don't mind so much ... but the carbine is butt-ugly.

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Mauser

Rocketgun for the win!

zed wolf

Thought I would do some poking around the net in regards to this thread and came up with this. I'd actualy like to know more about it but all I found is this pic. if its even real....

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basmoq

photoshop, look right where the finger guard goes up to the barrel

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longbough

The South African Vektor CR21. Yuk!

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Suave

Reminds me of guns from Halo.

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sadistikdreams

Pshaw! All bullpup config guns are ugly! Too back heavy, not balanced at all.

Speaking of which, here's my entry:

The P90.

suncrafter

Darn interesting thread. Those ARE ugly guns.

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longbough

I'm told the Lee Enfield (bullpup) kicks a lot because it's so back-heavy.

I guess the P90 doesn't look as butt-ugly as some items look to me - probably because it looks like a cool stapler design or something.

I have an uglier bullpup here. The French FAMAS.

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The_Dunedan

I like bullpups. I used to hate the things, but my mom collects 'em, and I was gradually won over. I like how they balance, personally; they're VERY fast getting on-target, and the recoil is so straight back (thanks to the breech being between, rather than in front of, the support structure of the firing hand and strong-side shoulder) that you can keep a 4x scope on target all the way through the recoil impulse. A bullpup .308 would be interesting; the Israelis have supposedly fielded one based on the M-14 platform, though personally I'd rather see an FAL conversion.

longbough

I have nothing against the bullpup design. It has many advantages like the balance offering quick mounting and a longer barrel in a compact rifle.
On the negative side I don't like having the ejection port so close to my face and some models are awkward if you want to shoot leftie.
Everything has its plusses and minuses.

'course if someone gave me a Steyer AUG or FN-P90 my opinions may change. So I'll stand by my sour grapes. So, lemme get this straight ... your MOM collects bullpups? You have one cool mom there.

But this thread is about ugliness ... and there are some bizarre bullpups out there.

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The_Dunedan

Now, I never said bullpups were pretty, mind you. That Type-8something AK bullpup is simply hideous, though I can't find a picture at the moment.

[threadjack] Yeah, and get this, she married my gun dealer. I introduced 'em, she bought her AUG two days later, and they got married eighteen months ago. She got a PS-90 for Christmas, the lucky little...ahem! [/threadjack]

I second the Chauchat, btw...form certainly seems to have followed function there.

ziadel

glocks...

ewwwwwwwwwww.


edit:

and FN's new bullopup looks like something out of HALO....the crappy alien weapon,,,

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longbough

No.
The FNP-90 fits right in with other office supplies.

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ziadel

actually, I was referring to this:



weapons are starting to look more like sex toys all the time... fuck, its even starting to influence movies...

exhibit a:

count dooku's light saber:


jnow honestly, if I told you that thing could be had with or without the clit tickler option, you wouldnt bat an eyelash, because based on looks alone, its plausible.

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Villar perosa

Belive it or not....thats a SMG.

moot1337

LMFAO. that is all.

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The_Dunedan

I dig on the P90, office equipment or not. I wouldn't mind keeping one in my desk drawer!

FN's 5.56mm bullpup, however, is HIDEOUS. Not only is it uglier than sin on crackers, it's blocky, uncomfortable to carry or fire...it basically sucks. Not a single military has picked it up that I'm aware of, and it's barely been a blip on law-enforcement screens. It's a toad.

longbough

I donno.
Looks kinda flaccid to me.

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ziadel

only reason I am keeping my eyes on it is because its actually ambidextrous...


and Longbough, its not flaccid, just a little bent to get the hard to reach areas I suppose.


I think I remember my buddy telling me about these things, he said another big problem qwas since the projectile had to get up to speed, you could easily defeat the weapon by sticking your finger in the barrel

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The_Dunedan

Dude, stay as far away from the FS2000 as you can manage. I cannot emphasize enough how un-ergonomic that thing is. If you're after an ambidextrous bullpup, try and track down an AUG or USR. Steyr makes a damned fine gun, and they're -extremely- accurate, to boot. I've seen 3" groups at 500 yards from a USR wearing a 4x Hendsholt. You can get left-handed bolts and such, though I don't know how easy they are to find.

Villar perosa

No way in hell you can beat this! It is an expiermental HEAB Grenade launcher....YUK!

ziadel

that thing weighs how much exactly?

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longbough

It's a little lighter if you don't have that optional accessory, called a "soldier," attached to it.

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The_Dunedan

Heh. You think it's ugly -now-, you shoulda seen what it started out as. Look up the OICW programme for a laugh.

ziadel

*sigh* Ya know, the weight problems that are keeping experimental weapon systems like this experimental indefinately, is really making me want to go back to college

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Villar perosa

So what...which looks uglier my xm grenade launcher or the villar perosa
THIS THREAD WILL NOT DIE!

http://www.securityarms.com/20010315...g/jam180-1.htm

Plan9

My nominations?

Colt Double Eagle pistol

Bushmaster M17 bullpup carbine

Rossi Cyclops revolver

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Baraka_Guru

Mauser C-96

I mean, really....

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Plan9

Yeah, but Han Solo used it.

And that makes it cool.

Next three:

- CZ's new compact 9mm pistol
- FN SCAR rifle system (SF should have gone with the H&K 416)
- WW2 era Japanese Nambu pistol

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longbough

lookie here:

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=111390


Presenting the EAA Thor single shot pistol - the word "gross" comes to mind.


The South African Vektor CR21. Yuk!
If Edvard Munch designed the AUG this would be it.


The French FAMAS is another butt-ugly bullpup. Looks like it was assembled from junkyard mechanical parts - none of them belonging to a gun.

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Plan9

Omigod, that Thor Raptor is a total joke.

But... I like the Vektor and FAMAS.

- OICW Sabre system (playstation humps grenade launcher)

- Russian MSB silent pistol (Cricket from Men in Black)

- Turkish Zigana 9mm (all bad geometry)

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longbough

And check out that logo on the pistol ... eeew.

I guess it's all a matter of taste. The FAMAS looks less like a weapon than a caulking gun.
Nothing against bullpups - I own a FN FS2000 - and I happen to like it.

I also happen to like the CZ P-01 (I own an SP-01) and the SCAR.

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Plan9

What's the forward-ejecting super-plastic FS2000 like, anyways?

Worth the $2k? Is it really as user-friendly as they say?

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