Windows 98 and Ipod data transfer.. - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

ziadel · 01-06-2006, 06:23 PM

anywho, I have a windows 98 machine, does anyone know how I can get this machine to recognize my Ipod as a storage device?

or will windows 98 not do this, I dont have any problems doing this on newer machines..

any help would be appreciated.

Cynthetiq · 01-06-2006, 06:58 PM

according to apple.com

ipod specs

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Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4 or later, or Windows XP Home or Professional with Service Pack 2 or later

itunes specs

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Windows XP or 2000 (latest service packs recommended)

alpha phi · 01-06-2006, 09:52 PM

If you have firewire microsoft has an update
to make your I pod work
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;242975

for USB the only thing I've found so far
is some joker who claims to have reversed engeniered
the Win98 mass storage driver to work with ipod
.....he makes you send $5 paypal then E mails it.....
http://win98.drivers.w.interia.pl/ipod.html
I'll keep looking though.

ziadel · 01-07-2006, 08:08 AM

paid the 5 bucks.

crap doesnt work.

I plug the Ipod in, but I dont get any prompt, cant get past step 4

anyone here have Ipod and windows 98, I can mail you the software and you can try to get it to work.

vanblah · 01-07-2006, 08:33 AM

Out of curiosity, what's keeping you from upgrading the machine?

alpha phi · 01-07-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ziadel

paid the 5 bucks.

crap doesnt work.

I plug the Ipod in, but I dont get any prompt, cant get past step 4

anyone here have Ipod and windows 98, I can mail you the software and you can try to get it to work.

Does it show up in your device manager?
if it does you can manually install the driver.(Win98_USB.inf)

ziadel · 01-07-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vanblah

Out of curiosity, what's keeping you from upgrading the machine?

lazyness...

and I want to be able to play the old Lucas Arts X-wing and Tie0Fighter games, I dont think I can do tjhat with Windows 2k Pro

Cynthetiq · 01-07-2006, 08:55 PM

I don't think that it will work properly, besides Win98SE has some Mass Storage driver issues along with other USB related problems that make it not 100% for using with all USB devices.

from another forum:

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jimoblak (Instructor) 23 Mar 04 11:29
The ipods use USB2 which is comparable to Firewire. In order to make use of this speed, you must have a USB2 port on your computer. I'm guessing that with Win98 you may have the older, slower USB1.

The only way to get music onto an ipod is through iTunes - which can only work on newer operating systems. iTunes acts as an interface to transfer files and to create playlists for the ipod. You might be able to connect an ipod to a Win98 machine to act as an external hard drive but you will not be able to load playable music on the ipod since iTunes will not be generating a playlist. You could load all the MP3s that you want through Windows Explorer but without iTunes playlist generation, the ipod LCD display will show no songs are available for play.

Apple does not officially support using an ipod on both Mac and Windows platforms - - but that does not mean it cannot be done. I formatted my ipod mini on Windows and I can use it on both my Mac and Windows PC.
- - picklefish - -

ziadel · 01-07-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha phi

Does it show up in your device manager?
if it does you can manually install the driver.(Win98_USB.inf)

ok, that actually got me somewhere, I found the unknown device properties, then I do the update driver, but when I point it to the folder that the .INF file was unpacked too, its just not taking it, Windows cannot locate a driver for this device...

The .INF file is there in that folder, I can see it! FOr some reason, the thing wont let me just select the .INF file...

alpha phi · 01-07-2006, 09:02 PM

USB1 is awful
I have XP but USB1 ports
I have to restart my computer
after using a USB mass storage device
But it still works
The Ipod software will not work on Win98
You have to use third party software
like winamp w/ Ipod plugin

ziadel · 01-07-2006, 09:14 PM

I dont want Itunes..
I just want to use it as a storage device..

alpha phi · 01-07-2006, 09:32 PM

http://h1.ripway.com/cammonroe/iPod.zip

the only thing I can think of is try a different set of drivers above
have you tried to use the add new hardware from the control panel?
Are you using 98 or 98SE?

If you have win2000 you could partition part of your HD
for 2000 and leave the rest 98

ziadel · 01-07-2006, 09:36 PM

windows 98 SE

alpha phi · 01-07-2006, 10:01 PM

Have you formated your ipod on a win XP/2000 computer?
http://www.geocities.com/mmcfly8888/
That is needed to make the file system
win 98 or ME will recognize

Hardknock · 01-07-2006, 11:44 PM

Split up the partitions on your drive and install both OS's

Martian · 01-07-2006, 11:58 PM

Dude, X-Wing and TIE Fighter are DOS games. If that's all that's holding you back, just upgrade and use DOSBox to play those two games. Or get the updated versions (you can get them in a box set with X-Wing : Alliance) and you're off to the races.

Windows 98 implementation of USB is broken, only marginally better than the than the Win95 OSR 2 implementation (which barely worked). You're going to have a hard time getting it all to work smoothly that way.

Leto · 01-08-2006, 04:48 AM

well. there's the cost of changing too. I have a 98 machine, and an xp, but i just got the xp under duress. I didn't want to pay just to get the new OS.

01-06-2006, 06:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	Windows 98 and Ipod data transfer.. anywho, I have a windows 98 machine, does anyone know how I can get this machine to recognize my Ipod as a storage device? or will windows 98 not do this, I dont have any problems doing this on newer machines.. any help would be appreciated. __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

01-06-2006, 09:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
alpha phi seeker Location: home	If you have firewire microsoft has an update to make your I pod work http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;242975 for USB the only thing I've found so far is some joker who claims to have reversed engeniered the Win98 mass storage driver to work with ipod .....he makes you send $5 paypal then E mails it..... http://win98.drivers.w.interia.pl/ipod.html I'll keep looking though. __________________ All ideas in this communication are sole property of the voices in my head. (C) 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 "The Voices" (TM). All rights reserved. Last edited by alpha phi; 01-06-2006 at 09:55 PM..

01-07-2006, 08:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	paid the 5 bucks. crap doesnt work. I plug the Ipod in, but I dont get any prompt, cant get past step 4 anyone here have Ipod and windows 98, I can mail you the software and you can try to get it to work. __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

01-07-2006, 09:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
alpha phi seeker Location: home	USB1 is awful I have XP but USB1 ports I have to restart my computer after using a USB mass storage device But it still works The Ipod software will not work on Win98 You have to use third party software like winamp w/ Ipod plugin __________________ All ideas in this communication are sole property of the voices in my head. (C) 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 "The Voices" (TM). All rights reserved.

01-07-2006, 09:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	I dont want Itunes.. I just want to use it as a storage device.. __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

01-07-2006, 08:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
vanblah Junkie	Out of curiosity, what's keeping you from upgrading the machine?

01-07-2006, 09:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
alpha phi seeker Location: home	http://h1.ripway.com/cammonroe/iPod.zip the only thing I can think of is try a different set of drivers above have you tried to use the add new hardware from the control panel? Are you using 98 or 98SE? If you have win2000 you could partition part of your HD for 2000 and leave the rest 98 __________________ All ideas in this communication are sole property of the voices in my head. (C) 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 "The Voices" (TM). All rights reserved.

01-07-2006, 09:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	windows 98 SE __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

01-07-2006, 10:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
alpha phi seeker Location: home	Have you formated your ipod on a win XP/2000 computer? http://www.geocities.com/mmcfly8888/ That is needed to make the file system win 98 or ME will recognize __________________ All ideas in this communication are sole property of the voices in my head. (C) 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 "The Voices" (TM). All rights reserved.

01-07-2006, 11:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hardknock Republican slayer Location: WA	Split up the partitions on your drive and install both OS's

01-07-2006, 11:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada	Dude, X-Wing and TIE Fighter are DOS games. If that's all that's holding you back, just upgrade and use DOSBox to play those two games. Or get the updated versions (you can get them in a box set with X-Wing : Alliance) and you're off to the races. Windows 98 implementation of USB is broken, only marginally better than the than the Win95 OSR 2 implementation (which barely worked). You're going to have a hard time getting it all to work smoothly that way. __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame

01-08-2006, 04:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
Leto Junkie Location: The Danforth	well. there's the cost of changing too. I have a 98 machine, and an xp, but i just got the xp under duress. I didn't want to pay just to get the new OS. __________________ You said you didn't give a fuck about hockey And I never saw someone say that before You held my hand and we walked home the long way You were loosening my grip on Bobby Orr http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Leto_Atreides_I