So whats do you guys think of the new firefox? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Slyboots · 11-29-2005, 07:52 PM

Finally firefox's new version of its browser has come out. The new version promises to be faster and more user friendly than before. It now allows you the ability to delete your private information (IE:history,cach,cookies) all in one button. So far a lot of my extensions have been updated with it but you still have to check around to see if they are compatible with the new version.

If you need more info and a link to it, here is the link to the site.

www.getfirefox.com

Pragma · 11-29-2005, 08:07 PM

I'm running it - and have been running the 1.5 betas/release candidates for a while now.

The main problem I have with it is that the window's titlebar and the URL box don't properly update when changing between tabs. This doesn't happen all of the time, but it happens a lot on forum sites (TFP, Shacknews, etc.) it seems, but it's often enough that it's annoying as fuck.

I'm not running any theme (I was, but thought that may have been contributing, so I disabled it - didn't help), and I have this problem on Linux and Windows (FF 1.5 RC1, RC2, RC3/Final). Has anyone else run across this problem - and if so, have they solved it?

Jrock · 11-29-2005, 08:35 PM

I tried to upgrade to 1.5, but most of the extensions I use aren't available for it yet, so I went back to 1.0.7. From what I used of it, 1.5 seemed a little faster, and also had some more options that may be usefull. I'll definatly be upgrading as soon as the extentions I want are available for this version.

cyrnel · 11-29-2005, 08:37 PM

Pragma, I've seen that but haven't looked into it. It's never shown up on a couple boxes that were clean 1.5RC installs. Could be chance or my eyesight but I'm suspicious of installing over old versions or perhaps old extension cruft.

bendsley · 11-29-2005, 08:58 PM

I am still running 1.0.7 and will continue to do so until the 100s of extensions that I use will be updated.

Anyway, it's a good deal for Mozilla.

Destrox · 11-29-2005, 09:54 PM

Been using 1.5 RC's for a long while now, and loved them all.

Its had a few problems here and there, but RC3 & Final are quite bug free. I mention both of them since the two are so similar I've yet to notice a difference.

Pragma · 11-30-2005, 05:11 AM

Destrox: It's because RC3 is Final

cyrnel: I'll have to give that a try later, deleting all of my preferences/etc. and try reinstalling and see if that makes a difference.

ratbastid · 11-30-2005, 06:31 AM

I LOVE being able to re-order tabs. I've wanted that since tabbed browsing first appeared in Firefox.

It's going to be just a matter of days until every current plugin is updated to work with 1.5. I can live without adblock for that long.

Redlemon · 11-30-2005, 07:10 AM

If you use a Macintosh, this version is CRITICAL. Way way way better than 1.0 was. If you use a 3 button mouse, the middle button works properly now.

(I've been using the nightly versions for many months. Haven't jumped to the new nightlies yet, but probably within a month I'll be there.)

If you want to force an un-upgraded extenion to install, you can use the extension <a href="http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/buildid/nightly.html">Nightly Tester Tools</a>. Of course, some extensions won't work properly in 1.5, so you do this at your own risk.

Also, many extensions are no longer needed, as they have been incorporated directly into Firefox. Pay special attention to any extensions that affect tab usage.

laconic1 · 11-30-2005, 09:09 AM

Just emerged it on Gentoo last night, havent updated the windows install yet. Haven't played with it too much, but being able to reorder tabs alone is worth upgrading for.

sailor · 11-30-2005, 09:23 AM

For the Linux folks, its a *huge* upgrade. Firefox 1.0x was incredibly slow on Linux, but one of the core objectives of 1.5 was to fix that--and fix it they did. It's unbelievably faster now.

Havent tried it on Windows yet, I don't boot that too often

Jinn · 11-30-2005, 10:09 AM

1.5 almost seemed slower to me. I'd never run it on this machine, but it seemed to take longer to load the same webpages as IE. Now that the cache is catching up, I can see it evening out.. but I'll have to see if there's a difference on my home machine..

soccerchamp76 · 11-30-2005, 11:50 AM

The re-ordering of tabs is a nice feature.

I have noticed that it has crashed on me a couple times since installing. And when I had 3 tabs open one time, the memory usage spiked to 200mb and 50% processor usage.

I still think they need to work on the memory leak problems, in my opinion.

portwineboy · 11-30-2005, 06:54 PM

It launches much faster for me. I had one crash so far that was pretty severe, but I was going to a website that had some sketch content. Otherwise it's been smooth sailing.

SiN · 11-30-2005, 07:11 PM

been running it since earlier this afternoon .. just installed over my 1.07.
everything extension-wise seems to be fine, the only problem is my theme's not updated yet

otherwise tho, no probs yet.

(oh, except for the search-box thingy, which is documented on their forums).

Psycho Dad · 11-30-2005, 07:15 PM

Reordering tabs is almost better than cold beer.

Slyboots · 11-30-2005, 10:16 PM

For those of you having trouble running certain extension after the upgrade, you might want to look at the developer’s site. I found that most of the extensions haven't been updated. That would mean you would haven’t o download them from the developers site or look around the extension/theme pages on the mozilla website. I found that my theme wasn't compatible with the new version and found later that they had a new upgraded version at the theme section of firefox update page ready to download. It shouldn’t take long for the coders to upgrade all the extensions, until then, use the nightwish extension like Redlemon stated.

Furry · 12-01-2005, 04:37 AM

I can't for the life of me get the Wikipedia search add-in. I click on the add-in link and get a blank icon in the search box that then refuses to search. I'm about to try re-installing...

SiN · 12-01-2005, 10:38 AM

Furry - reinstalling the search plugin should do the trick, that's what worked for me.
the problem with the wikipedia is a common one, as shown in this post at the mozillazine forums

Derwood · 12-01-2005, 02:11 PM

In related news, Yahoo Mail finally woke up today and now supports HTML composition for emails using Firefox (either version)

shakran · 12-01-2005, 06:03 PM

Anyone having trouble with flash in the new version? Worked fine in the old, but now it plays the sound without displaying the animation/video.

clavus · 12-01-2005, 06:11 PM

I think a new version of flash was released today. Maybe that will solve your problem.

shakran · 12-01-2005, 06:26 PM

Just grabbed it. No dice. Weird, huh?

Redlemon · 12-02-2005, 06:00 AM

Here's two minor things about 1.5 that I think are way cool.

When you open a link in a new tab, the link isn't marked as followed until the connection actually goes through. This also works on other tabs, if they contain the same links. It can be a bit disconcerting at first.

The error pages actually work. And they are pretty. When that hit the nightlies, I was typing pages incorrectly on purpose just to see the beautiful error page (for instance, try http://www.osidufa.com/).

superiorrain · 12-02-2005, 11:54 AM

Experiencing no problems what so ever. At the same time i haven't noticed too many of the changes but maybe that's a good thing. I will be happy once my theme is back up and running.

Go FireFox

RickB · 12-02-2005, 01:33 PM

Thanks, Redlemon, for the "Nightly" tip. I used it to force a few extensions to work.

I've never really gotten into themes though. Anyone have any favorites?

MikeSty · 12-02-2005, 04:31 PM

I'm with Bendsly - I won't upgrade until I'm guaranteed support for my extensions. I've already lost a nifty few. SS anyone?

Destrox · 12-02-2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickB

I've never really gotten into themes though. Anyone have any favorites?

Noia Extreme is my fav.

viper11885 · 12-03-2005, 09:42 PM

hmm, i didn't even know that a new one was released. thanks for the update. i may go and try it out.

bendsley · 12-04-2005, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destrox

Noia Extreme is my fav.

I use the GrayModern (0.6.2) theme. Very simple, and I like darker colours.

MontanaXVI · 12-04-2005, 04:48 PM

bene running the beta version for a while so the "upgrade" was nice to finally be on a stable release, but overall nothing that I am overly happy or sad about.

I did find this addon (thought I shouljd just plug it in this topic for all to see instead of making a new one) I am sure some of you have seen/use the IE view addon to open pages in IE that will not work in FF, well now someone has one that actually uses the IE engine to open a page in a FF tab

http://ietab.mozdev.org/

IT WORKS LIKE A CHAMP so far, even on 1.5

steveincolumbus · 12-04-2005, 06:50 PM

I think it still has some problems, like not working with alot of webpages. and just genral dislike for the layout. But I am prejustice I have been useing Maxthon for a while now and find absolutly no reason to switch......
I guess firefox is a decent replacement for IE but is still lacking...

glytch · 12-04-2005, 07:48 PM

Here's a kind of specialist question:

I've switched to Firefox (on my Mac, Opera still holds a grip on my PC). What I'm wanting to do is consolidate browsing, RSS, and possibly mail into one. Currently I use NetNewsWire for RSS and Safari for browsing. I've found the Sage plugin for Firefox, and like it alot, but here's a quick question: Anyone know how to make the items that I've already read disappear? This is a feature of NetNewsWire that I really like, and would hate to give up.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Redlemon · 12-05-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSty

I'm with Bendsly - I won't upgrade until I'm guaranteed support for my extensions. I've already lost a nifty few. SS anyone?

"SS"? If that's an extension, spell it out, I'll see what I can find out.

Pragma · 12-05-2005, 11:21 AM

SessionSaver, I believe.

In other news, I nuked my ~/.mozilla/firefox directory as well as the firefox directory where the extracted pre-RC3/Final binaries were and reinstalled FF 1.5 for Linux and it seems like my window title issue is taken care of. I just need to do that for the Windows machine now, and I'll be all set.

Redlemon · 12-05-2005, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragma

SessionSaver, I believe.

Ah. Mozilla Update :: Extensions -- SessionSaver - says that it is updated for 1.5. There might be an even newer version at the developer's page, based on this exceptionally long thread on MozillaZine Forums.

Confederate · 12-05-2005, 03:02 PM

I like it, haven't noticed much one way or ther other, except that my memory usage has gone up greatly. Firefox used to run around 50-80 megs of ram, lately I've been seeing it in the 300's not sure what is causing this, but i don't like the way it uses that much.

Slavakion · 12-07-2005, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Confederate

I like it, haven't noticed much one way or ther other, except that my memory usage has gone up greatly. Firefox used to run around 50-80 megs of ram, lately I've been seeing it in the 300's not sure what is causing this, but i don't like the way it uses that much.

I noticed that, too. I used to be 50-70, and now I've seen leakages up to 100 megs.

Martian · 12-10-2005, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon

Here's two minor things about 1.5 that I think are way cool.

When you open a link in a new tab, the link isn't marked as followed until the connection actually goes through. This also works on other tabs, if they contain the same links. It can be a bit disconcerting at first.

The error pages actually work. And they are pretty. When that hit the nightlies, I was typing pages incorrectly on purpose just to see the beautiful error page (for instance, try http://www.osidufa.com/).

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's crazy enough to be excited about the new error screens. I don't keep up with the nightlies, so when 1.5 final was released and I got my first 404 I was highly impressed.

Kadath · 12-11-2005, 05:24 PM

I can't get embedded sounds (like, say on ytmnd) to work. It tells me to install the missing plugin (Quicktime) which I already have installed. When I follow the wizard it says it can't do it properly and takes me to the Apple website. Otherwise, I like it.

11-29-2005, 07:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Slyboots Tilted Location: Newbury Park, California	So whats do you guys think of the new firefox? Finally firefox's new version of its browser has come out. The new version promises to be faster and more user friendly than before. It now allows you the ability to delete your private information (IE:history,cach,cookies) all in one button. So far a lot of my extensions have been updated with it but you still have to check around to see if they are compatible with the new version. If you need more info and a link to it, here is the link to the site. www.getfirefox.com __________________ "Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet." -- Robin Williams

11-29-2005, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	I'm running it - and have been running the 1.5 betas/release candidates for a while now. The main problem I have with it is that the window's titlebar and the URL box don't properly update when changing between tabs. This doesn't happen all of the time, but it happens a lot on forum sites (TFP, Shacknews, etc.) it seems, but it's often enough that it's annoying as fuck. I'm not running any theme (I was, but thought that may have been contributing, so I disabled it - didn't help), and I have this problem on Linux and Windows (FF 1.5 RC1, RC2, RC3/Final). Has anyone else run across this problem - and if so, have they solved it? __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

11-29-2005, 08:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	Pragma, I've seen that but haven't looked into it. It's never shown up on a couple boxes that were clean 1.5RC installs. Could be chance or my eyesight but I'm suspicious of installing over old versions or perhaps old extension cruft. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

11-29-2005, 08:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
bendsley Professional Loafer Location: texas	I am still running 1.0.7 and will continue to do so until the 100s of extensions that I use will be updated. Anyway, it's a good deal for Mozilla. __________________ "You hear the one about the fella who died, went to the pearly gates? St. Peter let him in. Sees a guy in a suit making a closing argument. Says, "Who's that?" St. Peter says, "Oh, that's God. Thinks he's Denny Crane."

11-29-2005, 09:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Destrox Metal and Rock 4 Life Location: Phoenix	Been using 1.5 RC's for a long while now, and loved them all. Its had a few problems here and there, but RC3 & Final are quite bug free. I mention both of them since the two are so similar I've yet to notice a difference. __________________ You bore me.... next.

11-29-2005, 08:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jrock Upright	I tried to upgrade to 1.5, but most of the extensions I use aren't available for it yet, so I went back to 1.0.7. From what I used of it, 1.5 seemed a little faster, and also had some more options that may be usefull. I'll definatly be upgrading as soon as the extentions I want are available for this version.

11-30-2005, 05:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Destrox: It's because RC3 is Final cyrnel: I'll have to give that a try later, deleting all of my preferences/etc. and try reinstalling and see if that makes a difference. __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

11-30-2005, 06:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	I LOVE being able to re-order tabs. I've wanted that since tabbed browsing first appeared in Firefox. It's going to be just a matter of days until every current plugin is updated to work with 1.5. I can live without adblock for that long.

11-30-2005, 07:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	If you use a Macintosh, this version is CRITICAL. Way way way better than 1.0 was. If you use a 3 button mouse, the middle button works properly now. (I've been using the nightly versions for many months. Haven't jumped to the new nightlies yet, but probably within a month I'll be there.) If you want to force an un-upgraded extenion to install, you can use the extension <a href="http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/buildid/nightly.html">Nightly Tester Tools</a>. Of course, some extensions won't work properly in 1.5, so you do this at your own risk. Also, many extensions are no longer needed, as they have been incorporated directly into Firefox. Pay special attention to any extensions that affect tab usage. __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry. Last edited by Redlemon; 11-30-2005 at 07:16 AM..

11-30-2005, 09:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
laconic1 Junkie	Just emerged it on Gentoo last night, havent updated the windows install yet. Haven't played with it too much, but being able to reorder tabs alone is worth upgrading for.

11-30-2005, 09:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
sailor beauty in the breakdown Location: Chapel Hill, NC	For the Linux folks, its a huge upgrade. Firefox 1.0x was incredibly slow on Linux, but one of the core objectives of 1.5 was to fix that--and fix it they did. It's unbelievably faster now. Havent tried it on Windows yet, I don't boot that too often __________________ "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." --Plato

11-30-2005, 10:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	1.5 almost seemed slower to me. I'd never run it on this machine, but it seemed to take longer to load the same webpages as IE. Now that the cache is catching up, I can see it evening out.. but I'll have to see if there's a difference on my home machine.. __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

11-30-2005, 11:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	The re-ordering of tabs is a nice feature. I have noticed that it has crashed on me a couple times since installing. And when I had 3 tabs open one time, the memory usage spiked to 200mb and 50% processor usage. I still think they need to work on the memory leak problems, in my opinion. __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.

11-30-2005, 06:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
portwineboy Master of No Domains Location: WEEhawken, New Joisey	It launches much faster for me. I had one crash so far that was pretty severe, but I was going to a website that had some sketch content. Otherwise it's been smooth sailing. __________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran.

11-30-2005, 07:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
SiN strangelove Location: ...more here than there...	been running it since earlier this afternoon .. just installed over my 1.07. everything extension-wise seems to be fine, the only problem is my theme's not updated yet otherwise tho, no probs yet. (oh, except for the search-box thingy, which is documented on their forums). __________________ - + - ° GiRLie GeeK ° - + - ° 01110010011011110110111101110100001000000110110101100101 Therell be days/When Ill stray/I may appear to be/Constantly out of reach/I give in to sin/Because I like to practise what I preach

11-30-2005, 07:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
Psycho Dad Mulletproof Location: Some nucking fut house.	Reordering tabs is almost better than cold beer. __________________ Don't always trust the opinions of experts.

11-30-2005, 10:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
Slyboots Tilted Location: Newbury Park, California	For those of you having trouble running certain extension after the upgrade, you might want to look at the developer’s site. I found that most of the extensions haven't been updated. That would mean you would haven’t o download them from the developers site or look around the extension/theme pages on the mozilla website. I found that my theme wasn't compatible with the new version and found later that they had a new upgraded version at the theme section of firefox update page ready to download. It shouldn’t take long for the coders to upgrade all the extensions, until then, use the nightwish extension like Redlemon stated. __________________ "Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet." -- Robin Williams

12-01-2005, 04:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
Furry Crazy Location: UK	I can't for the life of me get the Wikipedia search add-in. I click on the add-in link and get a blank icon in the search box that then refuses to search. I'm about to try re-installing... __________________ Furry is the leader of his own cult, the "Furballs of Doom". They sit about chanting "Doom, Doom, Doom". (From a random shot in the dark by SirLance)

12-01-2005, 10:38 AM	#19 (permalink)
SiN strangelove Location: ...more here than there...	Furry - reinstalling the search plugin should do the trick, that's what worked for me. the problem with the wikipedia is a common one, as shown in this post at the mozillazine forums __________________ - + - ° GiRLie GeeK ° - + - ° 01110010011011110110111101110100001000000110110101100101 Therell be days/When Ill stray/I may appear to be/Constantly out of reach/I give in to sin/Because I like to practise what I preach

12-01-2005, 02:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	In related news, Yahoo Mail finally woke up today and now supports HTML composition for emails using Firefox (either version) __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

12-01-2005, 06:03 PM	#21 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	Anyone having trouble with flash in the new version? Worked fine in the old, but now it plays the sound without displaying the animation/video.

12-01-2005, 06:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
clavus pow! Location: NorCal	I think a new version of flash was released today. Maybe that will solve your problem. __________________ Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.

12-01-2005, 06:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	Just grabbed it. No dice. Weird, huh?

12-02-2005, 06:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	Here's two minor things about 1.5 that I think are way cool. When you open a link in a new tab, the link isn't marked as followed until the connection actually goes through. This also works on other tabs, if they contain the same links. It can be a bit disconcerting at first. The error pages actually work. And they are pretty. When that hit the nightlies, I was typing pages incorrectly on purpose just to see the beautiful error page (for instance, try http://www.osidufa.com/). __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

12-02-2005, 11:54 AM	#25 (permalink)
superiorrain Psycho Location: London	Experiencing no problems what so ever. At the same time i haven't noticed too many of the changes but maybe that's a good thing. I will be happy once my theme is back up and running. Go FireFox __________________ "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible." - Arthur C. Clarke

12-02-2005, 01:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
RickB Tired Location: Beverly Hills	Thanks, Redlemon, for the "Nightly" tip. I used it to force a few extensions to work. I've never really gotten into themes though. Anyone have any favorites?

12-02-2005, 04:31 PM	#27 (permalink)
MikeSty The Computer Kid :D Location: 127.0.0.1	I'm with Bendsly - I won't upgrade until I'm guaranteed support for my extensions. I've already lost a nifty few. SS anyone?

12-03-2005, 09:42 PM	#29 (permalink)
viper11885 Insane	hmm, i didn't even know that a new one was released. thanks for the update. i may go and try it out.

12-04-2005, 04:48 PM	#31 (permalink)
MontanaXVI Junkie Location: Go A's!!!!	bene running the beta version for a while so the "upgrade" was nice to finally be on a stable release, but overall nothing that I am overly happy or sad about. I did find this addon (thought I shouljd just plug it in this topic for all to see instead of making a new one) I am sure some of you have seen/use the IE view addon to open pages in IE that will not work in FF, well now someone has one that actually uses the IE engine to open a page in a FF tab http://ietab.mozdev.org/ IT WORKS LIKE A CHAMP so far, even on 1.5 __________________ Spank you very much

12-04-2005, 06:50 PM	#32 (permalink)
steveincolumbus Psycho Location: BFE, Kentucky	I think it still has some problems, like not working with alot of webpages. and just genral dislike for the layout. But I am prejustice I have been useing Maxthon for a while now and find absolutly no reason to switch...... I guess firefox is a decent replacement for IE but is still lacking...

12-04-2005, 07:48 PM	#33 (permalink)
glytch I am not permanent. Location: Tennessee	Here's a kind of specialist question: I've switched to Firefox (on my Mac, Opera still holds a grip on my PC). What I'm wanting to do is consolidate browsing, RSS, and possibly mail into one. Currently I use NetNewsWire for RSS and Safari for browsing. I've found the Sage plugin for Firefox, and like it alot, but here's a quick question: Anyone know how to make the items that I've already read disappear? This is a feature of NetNewsWire that I really like, and would hate to give up. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! __________________ If you're flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit. - Mitch Hedberg

12-05-2005, 11:21 AM	#35 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	SessionSaver, I believe. In other news, I nuked my ~/.mozilla/firefox directory as well as the firefox directory where the extracted pre-RC3/Final binaries were and reinstalled FF 1.5 for Linux and it seems like my window title issue is taken care of. I just need to do that for the Windows machine now, and I'll be all set. __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

12-05-2005, 03:02 PM	#37 (permalink)
Confederate Death Leprechaun Location: College Station, TX	I like it, haven't noticed much one way or ther other, except that my memory usage has gone up greatly. Firefox used to run around 50-80 megs of ram, lately I've been seeing it in the 300's not sure what is causing this, but i don't like the way it uses that much.

12-11-2005, 05:24 PM	#40 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	I can't get embedded sounds (like, say on ytmnd) to work. It tells me to install the missing plugin (Quicktime) which I already have installed. When I follow the wizard it says it can't do it properly and takes me to the Apple website. Otherwise, I like it. __________________ it's quiet in here