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AquaFox · 10-25-2005, 05:49 PM

i broke my optical mouse and now it's time for a new one... it's for my laptop, and the general "mouse pad" is generally my couch or bed, soo optical mice work best .... right now i have a micro innovations mini optical mouse, which i broke...

i have afew questions

some of the more costly wireless mice say they have faster and more precise movements..... is movement a typical problem with mice??

weight... is it worth the effort of moving a heavier mouse around just to lose the cord??

and how long do these batteries last typically for wireless mice???

.... and the ball mice, with a ball on the top of the mouse that you move around... how do those really work??

and can anyone reccommend a mouse to me? any comments/suggestions/mice stories are welcome

thanks

cj2112 · 10-25-2005, 06:46 PM

I had THIS mouse from logitech at home and I took it to work because the machine I used to operate had a very small mousepad and this was perfect for that. I miss it, alot! It is awesome for almost every use except gaming, and it's only 20 bucks.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to buy another one this weekend. The thing is THAT good

catback · 10-25-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cj2112

I had THIS mouse from logitech at home and I took it to work because the machine I used to operate had a very small mousepad and this was perfect for that. I miss it, alot! It is awesome for almost every use except gaming, and it's only 20 bucks.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to buy another one this weekend. The thing is THAT good

That thing is a trackball, not a mouse...yea they suck at gaming unless your really use to moving the ball around.

MooseMan3000 · 10-25-2005, 07:27 PM

The type of mouse you get really depends on what you're doing with it. For your uses, I don't think a trackball would be a bad choice necessarily (You wouldn't have to worry about moving your hand, finding a good surface. Might be good for you), however I was never a big fan of them myself. They work well for their purpose, but that purpose doesn't work well for me.

As far as cordless mice go. I won't get one only because of the weight. In all other respects, they are virtually identical to corded mice. Yes, they respond a little slower. Yes, they are a little less precise. The differences, however, are so small that you won't notice them. If you are really bothered by the cord, get one. If you don't mind, however, stick with corded. No batteries to replace/recharge, you never have to worry about if it will receive correctly it's more comfortable to use, and it's lighter.

My recommendation would be a good USB mouse. Logitech makes the best. Sure, there are some others, but they're never as good. Which one you get depends on what you'll be using it for. If it's for gaming, get the MX518. If it's for general use and needs to be portable, get something smaller. If you don't game, but you want a really precise mouse, maybe try a laser mouse. I'd stay away from the MX1000 laser, but that's only because it's cordless. If that's cool, maybe give that a shot. Otherwise check out the G5: laser USB mouse, and it's not too big. At $50 it's a pretty decent buy (laser mice can be quite expensive), and it would probably work well for you.

cj2112 · 10-25-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by catback

That thing is a trackball, not a mouse...yea they suck at gaming unless your really use to moving the ball around.

Actually it's called a Marble Mouse

shakran · 10-25-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cj2112

Actually it's called a Marble Mouse

They can call it whatever they want, but it's still a trackball

If you want precision and a cordless mouse, the Logitech MX1000 lasermouse is for you. I'm sold on mine - won't ever go back. I charge it once every week or so (it's been known to go 2 weeks before needing recharge) on the included charger, it's precise as hell, and has great ergonomics.

Martian · 10-25-2005, 08:38 PM

For cordless I'll second Logitech. Hell, for corded I'll second Logitech too. I'm using one of the first generation MX500's and it's great - I really couldn't ask for anything more in a mouse. Their cordless miceinclude that handy docking station for recharging too, so when you're not using it you just throw it on the dock and battery charge will never be an issue.

As a gamer I have used cordless mice in gaming before (a big LAN game of Total Annihilation, no less) and I have to say that it's very unfortunate when the batteries choose to die in the thick of things. I have no need for a cordless mouse so I'll stick with the cord, but it's up to you whether or not you need the versatility.

TheProf · 10-25-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cj2112

I had THIS mouse from logitech at home and I took it to work because the machine I used to operate had a very small mousepad and this was perfect for that. I miss it, alot! It is awesome for almost every use except gaming, and it's only 20 bucks.

I used to have one of those, until I realized I was developing wrist pain and these bumps under my skin on top of my wrist, which were rather disturbing. Upon further research / consultation, I found out that I'm developing ganglions (see
here for more ) and it was apparently because the index/middle fingers are not designed to go sideways, which this ball requires.

It ends up that only the thumb is designed to have full 360 degrees of freedom, and as such, I now use this beauty:

No more wrist pain as well!

Wingless · 10-25-2005, 08:55 PM

If you're an avid LAN/party gamer, I would suggest AGAINST wireless mice. My friend and I got together for a fragfest, but my skillz took a turn for the worse as my wireless mouse signal couldn't hold.

Other than that, wireless optical all the way! I have used my $30 Logitech wireless mouse for nearly a year now, and the two AA batt's only need replacing every 2-3 months or so, which considering I use the thing 2-3+ hours a day 5 days a week, is pretty impressive. I've used it for gaming (FPS's and RTS's) to CAD drawing, and it's great.

But just as I said before, if someone else in the room or immediate area has another wireless mouse, you could have a problem.

Lasereth · 10-25-2005, 10:15 PM

I can't stand wireless mice, but I can't use optical for FPS at all. I have to be using a ball mouse for FPS or I suck really bad. I can use optical in WoW, but I still do better in all games with a ball mouse. I know I'm the minority, but my movements simply aren't as precise without the added friction of the ball. My mice usually cost $2 from www.directron.com .

The regular Dell PS/2 ball mice with a scroll wheel do me fine.

-Lasereth

AquaFox · 10-26-2005, 12:06 PM

most of my wokr is just internet and instant messaging, but i do like fast movement, soo from everyone's input, i think i'm going to just get a regular optical mouse with a cord... and maybe a laser one if i can find one at a good price! i'm tired of using my touch pad again!

AngelicVampire · 10-26-2005, 04:54 PM

Gotta recommend the Logitech MX1000 laser, really nice movement, good range and battery life. Its a lovely mouse, use it for gaming as well and it doesn't seem to have any problems.

AquaFox · 10-28-2005, 04:24 PM

i just got this:

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...s.aspx?pid=048

microsoft's wireless notebook laser mouse 6000

the four way tilt scroll wheel rocks and the zoom button rocks, it's like it's made for TFP's tittyboard, you can scroll side to side for large pics and zoom in when needed

Plaid13 · 10-28-2005, 06:01 PM

whatever type you decide on i suggest getting a logitech I have tried lots of other brands and they always died on me in less then 6 months but both logitechs i have had have lasted years and i have a bad habbit of dropping my mouse. Right now i have a MX500 optical mouse and my mouse pad is the cushion on the couch next to me and it works flawlessly.

AquaFox · 10-28-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Plaid13

whatever type you decide on i suggest getting a logitech I have tried lots of other brands and they always died on me in less then 6 months but both logitechs i have had have lasted years and i have a bad habbit of dropping my mouse. Right now i have a MX500 optical mouse and my mouse pad is the cushion on the couch next to me and it works flawlessly.

just a tad late, check my last reply, i got a new one

i'm in love with this mouse! i never used such a smooth functioning mouse before

muckluck · 10-28-2005, 06:15 PM

That mouse looks pretty sweet, does the USB battery ( I think it's the battery anyway) come off? That seems like it would be handy for recharging. I really want the wired Logitech mouse with the interchangable weights.

AquaFox · 10-28-2005, 06:22 PM

on that picture, that's the USB reciever, lol, it pops off and you put it in your computer... soo whenever your not using the mouse the receiver and the mouse stay together

theres a AA battery that goes inside of it actually

Plaid13 · 10-28-2005, 09:31 PM

ahh damn was thinking i should of warned you not to get a microsoft. everyone i know that has used one including me has had trouble with the buttons wearing out. after a couple months the mouse button starts to get real sensitive so it always doubleclicks instead of a single click.

AquaFox · 10-29-2005, 07:37 AM

i've used microsoft mice before and havn't had a problem..... my old computer from 1997 still has it's orgininal microsoft mouse and it's highly overused.... its even on it's third keyboard

muckluck · 10-29-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaFox

on that picture, that's the USB reciever, lol, it pops off and you put it in your computer... soo whenever your not using the mouse the receiver and the mouse stay together

theres a AA battery that goes inside of it actually

Bah, that usb battery thing seemed like a good idea... but I guess it makes sense to attach it to the mouse since it's meant for laptops.

AquaFox · 10-29-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by muckluck

Bah, that usb battery thing seemed like a good idea... but I guess it makes sense to attach it to the mouse since it's meant for laptops.

lol, it's the single greatest to attach the reciever to that, it makes mobility alot easier only having to worry about one peice as compared to two... plus little things like that get lost easier!

having a USB battery is actually a good idea. the desktop mice have a charger built into the reciever, when your not using your mouse you put it into the reciever and it charges... i dont know if those are powered by the computer or a power outlet... i know the one IPod's are charged via USB

only delemia about having a USB battery would be that you need your computer on for it to charge, and you wouldn't beable to use your mouse while it charges, unless if you have two batteries... that could pose a problem with mobile users who dont leave there computers on all day due to movement and lack of power cord!

10-25-2005, 05:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	mice! i broke my optical mouse and now it's time for a new one... it's for my laptop, and the general "mouse pad" is generally my couch or bed, soo optical mice work best .... right now i have a micro innovations mini optical mouse, which i broke... i have afew questions some of the more costly wireless mice say they have faster and more precise movements..... is movement a typical problem with mice?? weight... is it worth the effort of moving a heavier mouse around just to lose the cord?? and how long do these batteries last typically for wireless mice??? .... and the ball mice, with a ball on the top of the mouse that you move around... how do those really work?? and can anyone reccommend a mouse to me? any comments/suggestions/mice stories are welcome thanks __________________ ...AquaFox...

10-25-2005, 08:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada	For cordless I'll second Logitech. Hell, for corded I'll second Logitech too. I'm using one of the first generation MX500's and it's great - I really couldn't ask for anything more in a mouse. Their cordless miceinclude that handy docking station for recharging too, so when you're not using it you just throw it on the dock and battery charge will never be an issue. As a gamer I have used cordless mice in gaming before (a big LAN game of Total Annihilation, no less) and I have to say that it's very unfortunate when the batteries choose to die in the thick of things. I have no need for a cordless mouse so I'll stick with the cord, but it's up to you whether or not you need the versatility. __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame

10-25-2005, 08:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Wingless Psycho Location: Metro Detroit, Mich, USA	If you're an avid LAN/party gamer, I would suggest AGAINST wireless mice. My friend and I got together for a fragfest, but my skillz took a turn for the worse as my wireless mouse signal couldn't hold. Other than that, wireless optical all the way! I have used my $30 Logitech wireless mouse for nearly a year now, and the two AA batt's only need replacing every 2-3 months or so, which considering I use the thing 2-3+ hours a day 5 days a week, is pretty impressive. I've used it for gaming (FPS's and RTS's) to CAD drawing, and it's great. But just as I said before, if someone else in the room or immediate area has another wireless mouse, you could have a problem. __________________ Tommy Nibs is a funny word. So here I am, above palm trees, so straight and tall... You are, smaller getting smaller, but I still see... you. Jimmy Eat World - Goodbye Sky Harbor

10-25-2005, 10:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I can't stand wireless mice, but I can't use optical for FPS at all. I have to be using a ball mouse for FPS or I suck really bad. I can use optical in WoW, but I still do better in all games with a ball mouse. I know I'm the minority, but my movements simply aren't as precise without the added friction of the ball. My mice usually cost $2 from www.directron.com . The regular Dell PS/2 ball mice with a scroll wheel do me fine. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

10-26-2005, 12:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	most of my wokr is just internet and instant messaging, but i do like fast movement, soo from everyone's input, i think i'm going to just get a regular optical mouse with a cord... and maybe a laser one if i can find one at a good price! i'm tired of using my touch pad again! __________________ ...AquaFox...

10-25-2005, 06:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	I had THIS mouse from logitech at home and I took it to work because the machine I used to operate had a very small mousepad and this was perfect for that. I miss it, alot! It is awesome for almost every use except gaming, and it's only 20 bucks. As a matter of fact, I'm going to buy another one this weekend. The thing is THAT good

10-25-2005, 07:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
MooseMan3000 wouldn't mind being a ninja. Location: Maine, the Other White State.	The type of mouse you get really depends on what you're doing with it. For your uses, I don't think a trackball would be a bad choice necessarily (You wouldn't have to worry about moving your hand, finding a good surface. Might be good for you), however I was never a big fan of them myself. They work well for their purpose, but that purpose doesn't work well for me. As far as cordless mice go. I won't get one only because of the weight. In all other respects, they are virtually identical to corded mice. Yes, they respond a little slower. Yes, they are a little less precise. The differences, however, are so small that you won't notice them. If you are really bothered by the cord, get one. If you don't mind, however, stick with corded. No batteries to replace/recharge, you never have to worry about if it will receive correctly it's more comfortable to use, and it's lighter. My recommendation would be a good USB mouse. Logitech makes the best. Sure, there are some others, but they're never as good. Which one you get depends on what you'll be using it for. If it's for gaming, get the MX518. If it's for general use and needs to be portable, get something smaller. If you don't game, but you want a really precise mouse, maybe try a laser mouse. I'd stay away from the MX1000 laser, but that's only because it's cordless. If that's cool, maybe give that a shot. Otherwise check out the G5: laser USB mouse, and it's not too big. At $50 it's a pretty decent buy (laser mice can be quite expensive), and it would probably work well for you.

10-26-2005, 04:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
AngelicVampire Insane	Gotta recommend the Logitech MX1000 laser, really nice movement, good range and battery life. Its a lovely mouse, use it for gaming as well and it doesn't seem to have any problems.

10-28-2005, 04:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	i just got this: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...s.aspx?pid=048 microsoft's wireless notebook laser mouse 6000 the four way tilt scroll wheel rocks and the zoom button rocks, it's like it's made for TFP's tittyboard, you can scroll side to side for large pics and zoom in when needed __________________ ...AquaFox...

10-28-2005, 06:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
Plaid13 I want a Plaid crayon	whatever type you decide on i suggest getting a logitech I have tried lots of other brands and they always died on me in less then 6 months but both logitechs i have had have lasted years and i have a bad habbit of dropping my mouse. Right now i have a MX500 optical mouse and my mouse pad is the cushion on the couch next to me and it works flawlessly.

10-28-2005, 06:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
muckluck Psycho	That mouse looks pretty sweet, does the USB battery ( I think it's the battery anyway) come off? That seems like it would be handy for recharging. I really want the wired Logitech mouse with the interchangable weights. __________________

10-28-2005, 06:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	on that picture, that's the USB reciever, lol, it pops off and you put it in your computer... soo whenever your not using the mouse the receiver and the mouse stay together theres a AA battery that goes inside of it actually __________________ ...AquaFox...

10-28-2005, 09:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
Plaid13 I want a Plaid crayon	ahh damn was thinking i should of warned you not to get a microsoft. everyone i know that has used one including me has had trouble with the buttons wearing out. after a couple months the mouse button starts to get real sensitive so it always doubleclicks instead of a single click.

10-29-2005, 07:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	i've used microsoft mice before and havn't had a problem..... my old computer from 1997 still has it's orgininal microsoft mouse and it's highly overused.... its even on it's third keyboard __________________ ...AquaFox...