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CityOfAngels · 07-09-2005, 12:20 PM

Ok, so I have an actual copy of a DVD movie and a burned copy of it. I created the burned copy with this computer. But for some reason, my DVD drive won't recognize the burned copy. It's as if there is no disc in the drive. I tested it to see if I burned it correctly, and I did; it works both on my XBOX and in my standalone DVD player.

How do I remedy this? Do I just have a cheap DVD drive that can only recognize commercial versions of DVDs? 'Cause it recognizes the actual DVD, just not the copied version.

feelgood · 07-09-2005, 12:32 PM

What program did you use to burn the copied DVD?

Edit: You're saying that you got ahold of a DVD that was copied from another DVD and you made another copy of it? If that's the case, you're looking at a classic case of where making copies of copies of..etc etc would actually degrade in quality.

It's like taking a paper with some writing on it and putting it onto the photocopier, and then take the paper that just came out of the photocopier and then photocopy it and repeat the process until the last copy of the paper is unreadable.

kofspades · 07-09-2005, 01:59 PM

I suggest burning at a slower speed. I recommend 2x. I know that it takes longer, but I've burnt far less coasters with this method.

CityOfAngels · 07-09-2005, 02:50 PM

I have both the original DVD and the copied DVD that I produced myself. What I've been doing is using CloneDVD to put an iso on my PC, and then using Alcohol 120% to burn the iso. I don't want to put scratches on my original DVD, which is why I make backups, but my computer won't recognize my backups. I live with my dad, so when he's using the TV, I can't watch my DVD's w/ my XBOX or DVD player. That's when my PC comes in handy and I use PowerDVD to play my DVD's. Thing is I can't unless I use my original. I don't want to use my original because I want to keep it in pristine condition. Nothing on my PC recognizes the backup DVD. Not PowerDVD, not CloneDVD, and not Alcohol120%.

wakelagger · 07-09-2005, 03:03 PM

Are there some DVD drives that can't read burned DVD's? My friend had an older DVD drive that couldn't read the data DVD-r's I gave her. Just to note, I had tested the DVD's on my own computer prior to giving them to her. When she installed a new drive, it worked fine.

Also, I have a DVD drive in an older computer that can't read any of the DVD-r's I burn.

Couldn't that be it? Just an old drive that can't read these formats? Or am I completely off track?

Jinn · 07-09-2005, 03:27 PM

It's indeed the computer's drive. Ever had a CD-R not read in a commercial radio, or stereo in a car? CD-R and CD media are different, and some readers are not equipped with the correct laser/firmware to read them. Likewise with DVD drives.. xbox is new enough that it has a DVD/DVD+R-R reader.. your computer isn't

yotta · 07-09-2005, 10:24 PM

You need to remove the CSS encryption when coping DVDs. The encryption key can't be burnt to blanks, so you have to disable the encryption or else you get grabage.

itch vaccine · 07-10-2005, 03:55 AM

How old is your dvd burner

If it's more than a year old, possibly it's broken (that is if you use it often.. both to read and write)

It happens. That's why warranties only last a year or so

My CD writer had the same problem. This a known issue as "your writer being old and needs a change.

PenguinsRock · 07-10-2005, 11:08 PM

Are you using the same drive that you burned the DVD with and has it ever read burned disks? I use DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink (both freeware) I have heard of CloneDVD but never used it. DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink both remove CSS protection on discs as well as compress DVD9 disks to standard disks. *DVD Decrypter will read and write ISO's *DVD Shrink compresses ISO Images. Another thing to look at is updating the firmware on your DVD Drive (DVD Decrypter has a nice search utility for finding firmware).

Hope this helps

mark

catback · 07-12-2005, 06:35 AM

Try updating your firmware or using better quality discs. If your burner was cheap get a better/more expensive one. Alot of cheap discs will have read problems somewhere and cheap burners only add to the problem.

Cuatela · 07-12-2005, 08:51 AM

Hey, is the DVD + or - , and what can your DVD drive read?

kutulu · 07-12-2005, 11:47 AM

It's funny that people talk about the quality of the media but I've never used expensive discs and I never get coasters (less than 5 of about 300). I use DVDShrink and Nero6. DVDShrink is great because you can rip only the movie itself if you want. When you pop it in there are no menus, commercials, etc. It goes straight to the movie.

catback · 07-15-2005, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutulu

It's funny that people talk about the quality of the media but I've never used expensive discs and I never get coasters (less than 5 of about 300). I use DVDShrink and Nero6. DVDShrink is great because you can rip only the movie itself if you want. When you pop it in there are no menus, commercials, etc. It goes straight to the movie.

It's not so much about coasters as it is about read compatiability.

jcookc6 · 07-17-2005, 11:01 AM

could be the wrong type of DVD. you need DVD+RW, if you are using DVD-RW it won't read. Had this problem once.

07-09-2005, 12:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
CityOfAngels Oh shit it's Wayne Brady! Location: Passenger seat of Wayne Brady's car.	DVD drive won't recognize copied DVD Ok, so I have an actual copy of a DVD movie and a burned copy of it. I created the burned copy with this computer. But for some reason, my DVD drive won't recognize the burned copy. It's as if there is no disc in the drive. I tested it to see if I burned it correctly, and I did; it works both on my XBOX and in my standalone DVD player. How do I remedy this? Do I just have a cheap DVD drive that can only recognize commercial versions of DVDs? 'Cause it recognizes the actual DVD, just not the copied version.

07-09-2005, 12:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
feelgood Free Mars! Location: I dunno, there's white people around me saying "eh" all the time	What program did you use to burn the copied DVD? Edit: You're saying that you got ahold of a DVD that was copied from another DVD and you made another copy of it? If that's the case, you're looking at a classic case of where making copies of copies of..etc etc would actually degrade in quality. It's like taking a paper with some writing on it and putting it onto the photocopier, and then take the paper that just came out of the photocopier and then photocopy it and repeat the process until the last copy of the paper is unreadable. __________________ Looking out the window, that's an act of war. Staring at my shoes, that's an act of war. Committing an act of war? Oh you better believe that's an act of war Last edited by feelgood; 07-09-2005 at 12:34 PM..

07-09-2005, 01:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
kofspades Crazy	I suggest burning at a slower speed. I recommend 2x. I know that it takes longer, but I've burnt far less coasters with this method. __________________ Even if you stop the clock, it gives the right time twice a day. Once we get out of the eighties, the nineties are going to make the sixties look like the fifties.

07-09-2005, 03:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	It's indeed the computer's drive. Ever had a CD-R not read in a commercial radio, or stereo in a car? CD-R and CD media are different, and some readers are not equipped with the correct laser/firmware to read them. Likewise with DVD drives.. xbox is new enough that it has a DVD/DVD+R-R reader.. your computer isn't __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

07-09-2005, 10:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
yotta Irresponsible	You need to remove the CSS encryption when coping DVDs. The encryption key can't be burnt to blanks, so you have to disable the encryption or else you get grabage. __________________ I am Jack's signature.

07-09-2005, 02:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
CityOfAngels Oh shit it's Wayne Brady! Location: Passenger seat of Wayne Brady's car.	I have both the original DVD and the copied DVD that I produced myself. What I've been doing is using CloneDVD to put an iso on my PC, and then using Alcohol 120% to burn the iso. I don't want to put scratches on my original DVD, which is why I make backups, but my computer won't recognize my backups. I live with my dad, so when he's using the TV, I can't watch my DVD's w/ my XBOX or DVD player. That's when my PC comes in handy and I use PowerDVD to play my DVD's. Thing is I can't unless I use my original. I don't want to use my original because I want to keep it in pristine condition. Nothing on my PC recognizes the backup DVD. Not PowerDVD, not CloneDVD, and not Alcohol120%.

07-09-2005, 03:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
wakelagger Insane Location: Toronto	Are there some DVD drives that can't read burned DVD's? My friend had an older DVD drive that couldn't read the data DVD-r's I gave her. Just to note, I had tested the DVD's on my own computer prior to giving them to her. When she installed a new drive, it worked fine. Also, I have a DVD drive in an older computer that can't read any of the DVD-r's I burn. Couldn't that be it? Just an old drive that can't read these formats? Or am I completely off track?

07-10-2005, 03:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
itch vaccine Psycho Location: on my spinning computer chair	How old is your dvd burner If it's more than a year old, possibly it's broken (that is if you use it often.. both to read and write) It happens. That's why warranties only last a year or so My CD writer had the same problem. This a known issue as "your writer being old and needs a change. __________________ "When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, it seems like two minutes. When you sit on a hot stove for two minutes, it seems like two hours. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein

07-10-2005, 11:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
PenguinsRock Upright Location: US	Different Programs Are you using the same drive that you burned the DVD with and has it ever read burned disks? I use DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink (both freeware) I have heard of CloneDVD but never used it. DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink both remove CSS protection on discs as well as compress DVD9 disks to standard disks. DVD Decrypter will read and write ISO's DVD Shrink compresses ISO Images. Another thing to look at is updating the firmware on your DVD Drive (DVD Decrypter has a nice search utility for finding firmware). Hope this helps mark

07-12-2005, 06:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
catback Psycho Location: North America	Try updating your firmware or using better quality discs. If your burner was cheap get a better/more expensive one. Alot of cheap discs will have read problems somewhere and cheap burners only add to the problem.

07-12-2005, 08:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Cuatela Insane Location: NC, USA	Hey, is the DVD + or - , and what can your DVD drive read? __________________ Any sarcasm was intentional.

07-12-2005, 11:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	It's funny that people talk about the quality of the media but I've never used expensive discs and I never get coasters (less than 5 of about 300). I use DVDShrink and Nero6. DVDShrink is great because you can rip only the movie itself if you want. When you pop it in there are no menus, commercials, etc. It goes straight to the movie.

07-17-2005, 11:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
jcookc6 Psycho Location: Venice, Florida	could be the wrong type of DVD. you need DVD+RW, if you are using DVD-RW it won't read. Had this problem once.