TCPA, Palladium, CBDPTA - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

stazen · 05-27-2003, 10:54 AM

I want to get some TFP'rs opinion on the Trusted Computing Platform Alliance, and to spread the word to those who are unaware as to what Big Business / Government has in store for the next computer you may own

see: http://www.againsttcpa.com/index.shtml

From:
TCPA / Palladium Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.againsttcpa.com/tcpa-faq-en.html

Quote:

What does TCPA / Palladium do, in ordinary English?

It provides a computing platform on which you can't tamper with the applications, and where these applications can communicate securely with the vendor. The obvious application is digital rights management (DRM): Disney will be able to sell you DVDs that will decrypt and run on a Palladium platform, but which you won't be able to copy. The music industry will be able to sell you music downloads that you won't be able to swap. They will be able to sell you CDs that you'll only be able to play three times, or only on your birthday. All sorts of new marketing possibilities will open up.

TCPA / Palladium will also make it much harder for you to run unlicensed software. Pirate software can be detected and deleted remotely. It will also make it easier for people to rent software rather than buying it; and if you stop paying the rent, then not only does the software stop working but so may the files it created. For years, Bill Gates has dreamed of finding a way to make the Chinese pay for software: Palladium could be the answer to his prayer.

There are many other possibilities. Governments will be able to arrange things so that all Word documents created on civil servants' PCs are `born classified' and can't be leaked electronically to journalists. Auction sites might insist that you use trusted proxy software for bidding, so that you can't bid tactically at the auction. Cheating at computer games could be made more difficult.

There is a downside too. There will be remote censorship: the mechanisms designed to delete pirated music under remote control may be used to delete documents that a court (or a software company) has decided are offensive - this could be anything from pornography to writings that criticise political leaders. Software companies can also make it harder for you to switch to their competitors' products; for example, Word could encrypt all your documents using keys that only Microsoft products have access to; this would mean that you could only read them using Microsoft products, not with any competing word processor.

yotta · 05-27-2003, 09:03 PM

Evilness. Yet another reason not to use Microsoft products. I won't buy anything that requires this crap. And I think it will be broken.

arch13 · 05-28-2003, 01:43 AM

The ACLU is already on this and has my full support. Intel is promising that first gen hardware will ship with the ability to turn this feature off, but i'll belive it when i see it. Both slashdot and the gaurdian have in depth details about the hardware behind this, and a good deal of non US companies including Toshiba and Sony have pledged not to support this, calling it censorship. however, they have been threatened with custom tarrifs and may have no choice but to back down to maintain the US market.

Of interest to many here is that Palladium chips would be epoxy coated ceramic based like atm mono proccesors, making any tampering, including overclocking, imposable since that chip would self desruct if the epoxy seal is not present to provide an elictrical insulator. in other words, it's a way for intel to MAKE you buy an upgrade, not overclock.

05-27-2003, 09:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
yotta Irresponsible	Evilness. Yet another reason not to use Microsoft products. I won't buy anything that requires this crap. And I think it will be broken. __________________ I am Jack's signature.

05-28-2003, 01:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
arch13 Loves my girl in thongs Location: North of Mexico, South of Canada	The ACLU is already on this and has my full support. Intel is promising that first gen hardware will ship with the ability to turn this feature off, but i'll belive it when i see it. Both slashdot and the gaurdian have in depth details about the hardware behind this, and a good deal of non US companies including Toshiba and Sony have pledged not to support this, calling it censorship. however, they have been threatened with custom tarrifs and may have no choice but to back down to maintain the US market. Of interest to many here is that Palladium chips would be epoxy coated ceramic based like atm mono proccesors, making any tampering, including overclocking, imposable since that chip would self desruct if the epoxy seal is not present to provide an elictrical insulator. in other words, it's a way for intel to MAKE you buy an upgrade, not overclock. __________________ Seen on an employer evaluation: "The wheel is turning but the hamsters dead" ____________________________ Is arch13 really a porn diety ? find out after the film at 11. -Nanofever