Setting up a wireless network? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Ruse · 12-29-2004, 09:33 AM

Im trying to setup this wireless network... WRT54G linksys 802.11g wireless router v2 - 1 pci and 1 pcmcia card for each of the computers (both being linksys 802.11g cards). Anyway I hooked everything up without a problem, connected to the router and set it up( dialed into the router via browser - dsl router going into the internet port of the wireless router and a cable from my computer to the first port ), or so I thought. I then attempted to connect from the pc with the wireless pci card. It said it was getting signal from the router but it is not able to connect to the Internet (every time I tried to type in a url the page wouldnt load and I wasnt able to ping anything) . So I figure that I messed up and decide to go through the installation wizard on the CD. That failed worse than I had.. it said that the wireless router was not connected to the Internet when I had a cable from my dsl router going into the wireless router. At this point it started getting interesting... I had tried just about every possible thing to fix it to no avail. I then decided to bite the bullet and call tech support. "Luckily", I got the Arabian guy who told me to try an application on the linksys website called 'netset', I found it and downloaded it and attempted to use it... failure. It had the same effect as the CD installation had.

( Both of the computers are running XP )

Does anyone have an idea on what I can do?

lykwen · 12-29-2004, 10:04 AM

Are you certain that your DSL modem is plugged in to the correct port on the router with the correct cable? You said that you plugged it into the "Internet" port, which looks like it is the WAN port, according to the manual. Depending on your DSL unit, that could be a cross-over cable or a standard ethernet cable. If it came with the modem then it should be the right one.
"dialed into the router via browser" By dial I assume you aren't using a POTS modem, yes? Blending terms can make that confusing. If you can connect to the router, then you have an IP address and are connected to your local network and the problem is at the gateway. What information to you have about your Internet connection?
Assumption: DHCP ISP IP
On the router's configuration page there should be an entry for the IP address it received from your ISP. Did it get one? Did it also get entries for DNS servers? Are they the same or similar entries as you would get in Windows when the DSL line is plugged straight into your computer (via ipconfig /all at the command line)?
On your PC, what happens if you ping www.google.com and ping 216.239.63.104? If you can ping the IP address, then it would be a DNS problem. Neither and you still aren't getting past the gateway.

God of Thunder · 12-29-2004, 10:07 AM

With XP the firewall may be on, check that first.

Next turn everything off and turn them back on in this order:

DSL Modem, Router and then the PCs.

Check your ip address form the PC, if it is coming in all zeros or in the 169 range try doing a renew from the PC.

Start there and see what happens.

Ruse · 12-29-2004, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lykwen

Are you certain that your DSL modem is plugged in to the correct port on the router with the correct cable? You said that you plugged it into the "Internet" port, which looks like it is the WAN port.. Depending on your DSL unit, that could be a cross-over cable or a standard ethernet cable. If it came with the modem then it should be the right one.

Yep.. Im sure its plugged into the correct port. Page 7 on that manual

Quote:

"The internet port is where you connect your cable or dsl modem through an ethernet network cable."

Im using a standard cable ( ow o gw b bw g bw b ) which came with the wireless router.

Quote:

"dialed into the router via browser" By dial I assume you aren't using a POTS modem, yes? Blending terms can make that confusing.

By "dialing into it" I mean typing the IP address of the wireless router into the browser address bar.

Quote:

On the router's configuration page there should be an entry for the IP address it received from your ISP. Did it get one? Did it also get entries for DNS servers? Are they the same or similar entries as you would get in Windows when the DSL line is plugged straight into your computer (via ipconfig /all at the command line)?
On your PC, what happens if you ping www.google.com and ping 216.239.63.104? If you can ping the IP address, then it would be a DNS problem. Neither and you still aren't getting past the gateway.

I didnt get a entry for a recieved configuration from my ISP. I had to type everything in, so its exactly how they would be in windows with the dsl. On the wireless pc when I attempt to ping something it fails. 100% loss.

Quote:

With XP the firewall may be on, check that first.

Next turn everything off and turn them back on in this order:

DSL Modem, Router and then the PCs.

Check your ip address form the PC, if it is coming in all zeros or in the 169 range try doing a renew from the PC.

Start there and see what happens.

Windows firewall was one of the first things I checked, its already been disabled. Ill try and turn things off and back on in that order then check the IP from the wireless computer - I'll post my results in a few minutes.

Thanks for the response guys

Edit : I just tried to turn things off and back on in that order. Still didnt help too much. Also I did an ipconfig /all on the wireless computer to see what what it was seeing.. everything is the way it should be except for the gateway which I cant seem to change. My ISP says it should be 192.168.1.1, which I have typed in the gateway box in the router configuration. However, when it comes up it shows 192.168.1.2.

Halx · 12-29-2004, 12:21 PM

I'll bet you $50 that your DSL provider uses PPOE to establish connections. You need to plug your account information into the first page at http://192.168.1.1 for the router to connect to the internet.

Ruse · 12-29-2004, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halx

I'll bet you $50 that your DSL provider uses PPOE to establish connections. You need to plug your account information into the first page at http://192.168.1.1 for the router to connect to the internet.

I'll give anything a try at this point.. I'll post my results in a bit.

Edit : I'll take that $50. Im just about 100% sure I need DHCP - I dont pay for a static IP and I have no un/pw except for email.

Halx · 12-29-2004, 04:47 PM

Oh... and if that doesn't work, have your router clone your MAC address. Click on MAC address clone off the front page.

Ruse · 12-29-2004, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halx

Oh... and if that doesn't work, have your router clone your MAC address. Click on MAC address clone off the front page.

Still no dice but thanks for trying

Halx · 12-29-2004, 11:03 PM

on your router, make sure that mac address filtering is off.

Man, if none of this is working, you got issues. I'm sure if I had a chance to play with it, it would be working in under 5 minutes. Everywhere I've been, I've worked with linksys and cisco routers. I know the linksys routers like the back of my hand.

sashime76 · 12-30-2004, 05:26 AM

I didn't see a mention of SSID, make sure you specify one when you set up the router. One my second PC (with wireless PCI card), I had to install the hardware then the software, not the other way around. Setup the SSID, encryption, etc to match the router. I got my D-Links up in 5 min. after replacing the older/slower Netgears.

jonjon42 · 12-30-2004, 06:22 AM

oh jeez....I know this problem...encountered it for a while...you need to either enable dhcp or if for some reason the router doesn't support it (yes I bought a cheap ass wireless router at the time) change to up addy to your current one...and hope it doesn't change in the near future :-D

lykwen · 12-30-2004, 02:14 PM

The Linksys will support DHCP.
What information do you get when you use ipconfig /all when plugged into the router and when plugged straight to DSL? The Gateway address on your PC needs to be the router. Gateway on the Linysys should be whatever you get in Windows.

Ruse · 12-30-2004, 07:26 PM

Thanks to Halx, got it solved... needed to switch it back to Static IP even though it hadnt worked the first time and configure from there. Thanks for the help everyone!

Mephisto2 · 12-31-2004, 06:17 AM

Now that you've got the AP up and running, I'm hoping you've configured WPA correctly.

Remember to use a pass-phrase of around 20 characters, and to mix upper and lower case, numerical and extended characters.

If you need more info, just ask...

Mr Mephisto

zero2 · 01-01-2005, 04:29 PM

You could of also of tried connecting your dsl modem to pc via a ethernet cable, then done a ipconfig /all from the command prompt to find out what type of settings need to be used. Then all you would need to do is assign those same settings to your router.

12-29-2004, 09:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ruse Crazy	Setting up a wireless network? Im trying to setup this wireless network... WRT54G linksys 802.11g wireless router v2 - 1 pci and 1 pcmcia card for each of the computers (both being linksys 802.11g cards). Anyway I hooked everything up without a problem, connected to the router and set it up( dialed into the router via browser - dsl router going into the internet port of the wireless router and a cable from my computer to the first port ), or so I thought. I then attempted to connect from the pc with the wireless pci card. It said it was getting signal from the router but it is not able to connect to the Internet (every time I tried to type in a url the page wouldnt load and I wasnt able to ping anything) . So I figure that I messed up and decide to go through the installation wizard on the CD. That failed worse than I had.. it said that the wireless router was not connected to the Internet when I had a cable from my dsl router going into the wireless router. At this point it started getting interesting... I had tried just about every possible thing to fix it to no avail. I then decided to bite the bullet and call tech support. "Luckily", I got the Arabian guy who told me to try an application on the linksys website called 'netset', I found it and downloaded it and attempted to use it... failure. It had the same effect as the CD installation had. ( Both of the computers are running XP ) Does anyone have an idea on what I can do?

12-29-2004, 10:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
lykwen Insane Location: Portland, Oregon, USA	Are you certain that your DSL modem is plugged in to the correct port on the router with the correct cable? You said that you plugged it into the "Internet" port, which looks like it is the WAN port, according to the manual. Depending on your DSL unit, that could be a cross-over cable or a standard ethernet cable. If it came with the modem then it should be the right one. "dialed into the router via browser" By dial I assume you aren't using a POTS modem, yes? Blending terms can make that confusing. If you can connect to the router, then you have an IP address and are connected to your local network and the problem is at the gateway. What information to you have about your Internet connection? Assumption: DHCP ISP IP On the router's configuration page there should be an entry for the IP address it received from your ISP. Did it get one? Did it also get entries for DNS servers? Are they the same or similar entries as you would get in Windows when the DSL line is plugged straight into your computer (via ipconfig /all at the command line)? On your PC, what happens if you ping www.google.com and ping 216.239.63.104? If you can ping the IP address, then it would be a DNS problem. Neither and you still aren't getting past the gateway. __________________ I. Lykwen Gerlsartopolous

12-29-2004, 10:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
God of Thunder Talk nerdy to me Location: Flint, MI	With XP the firewall may be on, check that first. Next turn everything off and turn them back on in this order: DSL Modem, Router and then the PCs. Check your ip address form the PC, if it is coming in all zeros or in the 169 range try doing a renew from the PC. Start there and see what happens. __________________ I reject your reality, and substitute my own -- Adam Savage

12-29-2004, 12:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	I'll bet you $50 that your DSL provider uses PPOE to establish connections. You need to plug your account information into the first page at http://192.168.1.1 for the router to connect to the internet. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals] Last edited by Halx; 12-29-2004 at 12:26 PM..

12-29-2004, 04:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Oh... and if that doesn't work, have your router clone your MAC address. Click on MAC address clone off the front page. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

12-29-2004, 11:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	on your router, make sure that mac address filtering is off. Man, if none of this is working, you got issues. I'm sure if I had a chance to play with it, it would be working in under 5 minutes. Everywhere I've been, I've worked with linksys and cisco routers. I know the linksys routers like the back of my hand. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

12-30-2004, 05:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
sashime76 Addict Location: Hoosier State	I didn't see a mention of SSID, make sure you specify one when you set up the router. One my second PC (with wireless PCI card), I had to install the hardware then the software, not the other way around. Setup the SSID, encryption, etc to match the router. I got my D-Links up in 5 min. after replacing the older/slower Netgears.

12-30-2004, 06:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
jonjon42 Psycho Location: inside my own mind	oh jeez....I know this problem...encountered it for a while...you need to either enable dhcp or if for some reason the router doesn't support it (yes I bought a cheap ass wireless router at the time) change to up addy to your current one...and hope it doesn't change in the near future :-D __________________ A damn dirty hippie without the dirty part....

12-30-2004, 02:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
lykwen Insane Location: Portland, Oregon, USA	The Linksys will support DHCP. What information do you get when you use ipconfig /all when plugged into the router and when plugged straight to DSL? The Gateway address on your PC needs to be the router. Gateway on the Linysys should be whatever you get in Windows. __________________ I. Lykwen Gerlsartopolous

12-30-2004, 07:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ruse Crazy	Thanks to Halx, got it solved... needed to switch it back to Static IP even though it hadnt worked the first time and configure from there. Thanks for the help everyone!

12-31-2004, 06:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mephisto2 Junkie	Now that you've got the AP up and running, I'm hoping you've configured WPA correctly. Remember to use a pass-phrase of around 20 characters, and to mix upper and lower case, numerical and extended characters. If you need more info, just ask... Mr Mephisto

01-01-2005, 04:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
zero2 Junkie	You could of also of tried connecting your dsl modem to pc via a ethernet cable, then done a ipconfig /all from the command prompt to find out what type of settings need to be used. Then all you would need to do is assign those same settings to your router.