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blahblah454 · 11-14-2004, 12:35 AM

Hey everyone, Ive been having some trouble with my damn ATI drivers (I have the Radeon 9600 pro). So I went to their site to get the new drivers and what do they do!? It messes up my computer so bad that it will not even start unless I pop it into safe mode. So I then uninstalled the drivers and I never want to deal with ATI drivers again.

I remember reading on here about other drivers that work with the ATI ones but are much better. I just can't seem to find the thread (I tried searching for around an hour before I gave it up as a lost cause). Any help would be much apreciated as I am currently not running it with anything and I am stuck with 800x600 res or something bad like that (also the screen refreshes hideously slow)

KrazyKracka · 11-14-2004, 01:38 AM

try windowsupdate.microsoft.com, and look for "optional hardware updates". A lot of times they have updated drivers for cards like your radeon, and they had them for my Nvidea GeForce.

Dragonlich · 11-14-2004, 02:38 AM

I think you're overstating the problems of the ATI's drivers. They're not that bad - I've been running various versions for more than six months, without so much as a crash. If you have problems with drivers, it may not always be the videocard that's at fault...

but if you want other drivers: there are people "hacking" the ATI drivers to change them a bit, showing prettier graphics or having more raw speed. They are ultimately still the same drivers, with the same potential problems.

To solve your supposed ATI problem once and for all, you could get an NVidia videocard instead, and try and deal with *their* occasional problems.

Alternatively: did you try to re-install Windows itself? That might solve your problems. Or you could (re-)install DirectX 9.0c, see what that does.

aKula · 11-14-2004, 03:28 AM

Get driver cleaner, a program which will thouroughly remove your current drivers. It can be found here http://www.drivercleaner.net/ .
Then try reinstalling whatever drivers you feel like using. The latest catalyst, older catlysts or the modded catalyst "omega" drivers from here: http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati/win2k_xp.php

blahblah454 · 11-14-2004, 09:38 AM

Im gonna try those omega drivers out and see how they are, thanks all for help

MahlerIsGod · 11-14-2004, 09:48 AM

It kinda sounds to me that you had two drivers installed concurrently and that was causing the system problems. I did something similiar with my sound card (M-Audio Rev 7.1) when I didn't unistall the previous driver and just added the latest driver on top of it. My computer would boot up but wouldn't progress past the Windows XP splash screen. I did the same thing you did with the safe mode removed the old driver and everything was gold.

blahblah454 · 11-14-2004, 11:47 AM

well i tried uninstalling all my fucking graphics drivers and I even used that Driver Cleaner thing and even still when I install the new drivers from ATI.com shit hits the fan and my computer wont start.

blahblah454 · 11-14-2004, 01:46 PM

Well its official, I can not update any graphics drivers on my computer, nothing works... everytime I try anything it screws up. The only ones that work are the ones that come on the original cd. Great! So I just wasted all that money on all those video games Ive ever bought, Im starting to think this P.O.S. was a big waste of money

bill96ab · 11-14-2004, 10:16 PM

dont give up yet blah blah

run in safe mode, and goto add remove programs, and do the "remove all ATI" program. this will remove all the drivers.

after it reboots, install the three file in the order that the ATI website has you download them.

keep us posted on how this works for you

blahblah454 · 11-14-2004, 10:55 PM

Hey bill I just downloaded that one file pack that they have (I have DSL and it takes about 1-2 min to get it)

I tried removing it all and just starting again with that pack from ati.com and it started out all good, it told me to reset the computer and that it would run a series of tests when it started back up again. And it started just fine (first time in a long time) but when my desktop loaded a thing popped up that said something like "ATI startbar could not load because some files were missing" and it turns out that I had no graphics drivers at all... this happens everytime now when I try and install that pack. When I am on the internet like this the refresh rate is so slow that I can see it refreshing when I scroll down on sites. So I just deleted all that crap and threw the drivers back on that came with the cd.

bal8664 · 11-14-2004, 11:04 PM

Hmmm, ever think maybe its a hardware problem. Since you originally were having troubles with it and then decided to upgrade the drivers. Maybe the card went bad, not the drivers. Either way i would recommend fully removing all the drivers, and going into the sstem control panel and the device manager and actually remvoing the video card from there, when you restart windows should recognize it and install its own default drivers. From there i'd update to the newest ATI drivers.

bill96ab · 11-15-2004, 12:44 AM

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/wxp-w2k-...9c-english.exe

this is the exact file that I installed yesterday. Try it... Do youhave the all in wonder card? if you do, then you need to install these as well:

http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/w...=14&submit.y=7

download files 1, 2, 3, and install them in that order.

Dont give up yet you can get it to work! I have had heck with these drivers in the past. sometimes for some dang reason, they will jack with my computer.. i have even had them screw up my mouse!

bill96ab · 11-15-2004, 12:46 AM

Also, that first file is like 29 meg big. I dont know if this is the file you already have...

BoltedDown · 11-15-2004, 02:42 AM

[threadjack]
I've been having random errors with my ATI card lately. I can't seem to determine the pattern, but I think i'll give that drivercleaner a shot!

-BD
[/threadjack]

bill96ab · 11-15-2004, 03:30 PM

bolted, did you get the drivers to work?

BoltedDown · 11-15-2004, 05:46 PM

I've been really busy... but i'm going to try it right now...

-BD

11-14-2004, 12:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	ATI Driver Problems Hey everyone, Ive been having some trouble with my damn ATI drivers (I have the Radeon 9600 pro). So I went to their site to get the new drivers and what do they do!? It messes up my computer so bad that it will not even start unless I pop it into safe mode. So I then uninstalled the drivers and I never want to deal with ATI drivers again. I remember reading on here about other drivers that work with the ATI ones but are much better. I just can't seem to find the thread (I tried searching for around an hour before I gave it up as a lost cause). Any help would be much apreciated as I am currently not running it with anything and I am stuck with 800x600 res or something bad like that (also the screen refreshes hideously slow)

11-14-2004, 09:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
MahlerIsGod At The Globe Showing Will How Its Done Location: London/Elysium	It kinda sounds to me that you had two drivers installed concurrently and that was causing the system problems. I did something similiar with my sound card (M-Audio Rev 7.1) when I didn't unistall the previous driver and just added the latest driver on top of it. My computer would boot up but wouldn't progress past the Windows XP splash screen. I did the same thing you did with the safe mode removed the old driver and everything was gold. __________________ "But a work of art is a conscious human effort that has to do with communication. It is that or its nothing. When an accident is applauded as a work of art, when a cult grows up around the deliciousness of inadvertent beauty, we are in the presence of the greatest decadence the West has known in its history."

11-14-2004, 10:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
bill96ab Crazy Location: Heart o' Texas	dont give up yet blah blah run in safe mode, and goto add remove programs, and do the "remove all ATI" program. this will remove all the drivers. after it reboots, install the three file in the order that the ATI website has you download them. keep us posted on how this works for you __________________ Bill Ctrl-Alt-Del - works for me!

11-15-2004, 12:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
bill96ab Crazy Location: Heart o' Texas	http://www2.ati.com/drivers/wxp-w2k-...9c-english.exe this is the exact file that I installed yesterday. Try it... Do youhave the all in wonder card? if you do, then you need to install these as well: http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/w...=14&submit.y=7 download files 1, 2, 3, and install them in that order. Dont give up yet you can get it to work! I have had heck with these drivers in the past. sometimes for some dang reason, they will jack with my computer.. i have even had them screw up my mouse! __________________ Bill Ctrl-Alt-Del - works for me!

11-15-2004, 12:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
bill96ab Crazy Location: Heart o' Texas	Also, that first file is like 29 meg big. I dont know if this is the file you already have... __________________ Bill Ctrl-Alt-Del - works for me!

11-14-2004, 01:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
KrazyKracka Crazy Location: PA	try windowsupdate.microsoft.com, and look for "optional hardware updates". A lot of times they have updated drivers for cards like your radeon, and they had them for my Nvidea GeForce.

11-14-2004, 02:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dragonlich 42, baby! Location: The Netherlands	I think you're overstating the problems of the ATI's drivers. They're not that bad - I've been running various versions for more than six months, without so much as a crash. If you have problems with drivers, it may not always be the videocard that's at fault... but if you want other drivers: there are people "hacking" the ATI drivers to change them a bit, showing prettier graphics or having more raw speed. They are ultimately still the same drivers, with the same potential problems. To solve your supposed ATI problem once and for all, you could get an NVidia videocard instead, and try and deal with their occasional problems. Alternatively: did you try to re-install Windows itself? That might solve your problems. Or you could (re-)install DirectX 9.0c, see what that does.

11-14-2004, 03:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
aKula Psycho	Get driver cleaner, a program which will thouroughly remove your current drivers. It can be found here http://www.drivercleaner.net/ . Then try reinstalling whatever drivers you feel like using. The latest catalyst, older catlysts or the modded catalyst "omega" drivers from here: http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati/win2k_xp.php

11-14-2004, 09:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	Im gonna try those omega drivers out and see how they are, thanks all for help

11-14-2004, 11:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	well i tried uninstalling all my fucking graphics drivers and I even used that Driver Cleaner thing and even still when I install the new drivers from ATI.com shit hits the fan and my computer wont start.

11-14-2004, 01:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	Well its official, I can not update any graphics drivers on my computer, nothing works... everytime I try anything it screws up. The only ones that work are the ones that come on the original cd. Great! So I just wasted all that money on all those video games Ive ever bought, Im starting to think this P.O.S. was a big waste of money

11-14-2004, 10:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	Hey bill I just downloaded that one file pack that they have (I have DSL and it takes about 1-2 min to get it) I tried removing it all and just starting again with that pack from ati.com and it started out all good, it told me to reset the computer and that it would run a series of tests when it started back up again. And it started just fine (first time in a long time) but when my desktop loaded a thing popped up that said something like "ATI startbar could not load because some files were missing" and it turns out that I had no graphics drivers at all... this happens everytime now when I try and install that pack. When I am on the internet like this the refresh rate is so slow that I can see it refreshing when I scroll down on sites. So I just deleted all that crap and threw the drivers back on that came with the cd.

11-14-2004, 11:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
bal8664 Crazy Location: Rochester, NY	Hmmm, ever think maybe its a hardware problem. Since you originally were having troubles with it and then decided to upgrade the drivers. Maybe the card went bad, not the drivers. Either way i would recommend fully removing all the drivers, and going into the sstem control panel and the device manager and actually remvoing the video card from there, when you restart windows should recognize it and install its own default drivers. From there i'd update to the newest ATI drivers.

11-15-2004, 02:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
BoltedDown Crazy	[threadjack] I've been having random errors with my ATI card lately. I can't seem to determine the pattern, but I think i'll give that drivercleaner a shot! -BD [/threadjack]

11-15-2004, 03:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
bill96ab Crazy Location: Heart o' Texas	bolted, did you get the drivers to work? __________________ Bill Ctrl-Alt-Del - works for me!

11-15-2004, 05:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
BoltedDown Crazy	I've been really busy... but i'm going to try it right now... -BD