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Confederate · 10-10-2004, 02:04 PM

I know this may seem an obvious question, but when I use torrents and DC++ my internet gets really slow, esp when browsing pages. But when I download something from a webpage I usually get 100k/s downloads. I am on an HP with XP SP1, and using internet explorer on a cable modem. My questions is why can I download something from a webpage at around 100k/s and the webpage itself loads like I am on dial-up. And this only happens when I use P2P programs.

shadowalker · 10-10-2004, 02:18 PM

When using p2p clients like bt and others, your soaking up your own useable bandwidth that is used for normal internet functions like browsing and dl'ing patches and suchs from websites. It has nothing to do with your computer, your os or anything like that, If you want faster browsing speeds stop downloading.

Confederate · 10-10-2004, 02:34 PM

I tossed my computer info in there becuase everytime someone asks a question in here, someone else asks what OS are you using and what internet browser do you use. If you had been here a bit longer maybe you would have realized that. And save the sarcastic comments for another board.

bitrunner · 10-10-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Confederate

I know this may seem an obvious question, but when I use torrents and DC++ my internet gets really slow, esp when browsing pages. But when I download something from a webpage I usually get 100k/s downloads. I am on an HP with XP SP1, and using internet explorer on a cable modem. My questions is why can I download something from a webpage at around 100k/s and the webpage itself loads like I am on dial-up. And this only happens when I use P2P programs.

Check the speed your uploading at. I know on my connection if I'm uploading at or close to the max my d/ling drops right off. Many bittorrent clients let you set your max u/l speed to prevent this from happening..

Confederate · 10-10-2004, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bitrunner

Check the speed your uploading at. I know on my connection if I'm uploading at or close to the max my d/ling drops right off. Many bittorrent clients let you set your max u/l speed to prevent this from happening..

awesome, looks like that worked. I never would have thought of adjusting my upload speeds to affect my downloading.
Thanks.

Silvy · 10-10-2004, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Confederate

If you had been here a bit longer maybe you would have realized that. And save the sarcastic comments for another board.

I personally find those sentences unnecessary, the poster was trying to be helpful in my opinion. And this is no way to greet a rookie.
Once again, just my humble opinion.

Now back to the matter at hand: You have an uploading and downloading speedlimit. Usually your upload speed is limited rather low. When you are downloading pages, you need the upload bandwith to request the page, send regular "acknowledge" packets and new requests. If your upload bandwith is taken up by programs like Bittorrent and the like, those requests and ACK's don't get through. Then the server won't send you new data, result: slower download speed. Some member here will probably know better details, but this is it in a nutshell.

P.S. if you want to know why bittorrent is using upload bandwith, ask!

shadowalker · 10-10-2004, 03:22 PM

And it was NOT a sarcastic comment, i was letting you know that is was not a cause of your problem, and if you want to be such an ass like that, I'll make sure i never help you with any of your problems again. Unless you would like to appologize.

MSD · 10-10-2004, 08:43 PM

[color=orange]Guys, please keep it polite, I like to think our members here are better than some of the tech support people I've had to deal with. It was a simple misunderstanding, just sweep it under the rug and don't let it get to you. It's not worth arguing over.[/quote]

zero2 · 10-12-2004, 04:04 PM

I also had the same problem, when I first started using bittorrent, there was a point where I thought it was too much of a hassle downloading, or in order to download I would have to do it only at night when I would least likely to be hassled.

I almost gave it up, because everytime I wanted to download something, someone was always bothering me, that the internet connection is "too slow", or "I can't get to hotmail.com". After awhile I got tired of making up excuses like, "The hotmail service is down" or "I think our ISP is just making a few changes."

Anyhow, back to your problem, as others have stated, you probably need to lower your upload speed, this is probably the reason you are getting horrid 56k like speeds surfing the web, because both p2p program are competing for bandwidth. A couple of clients I would recommend are: bitornado, azerus, or abc client.

Lastly you should also do the same for dc++, which should have an option to decrease upload speeds.

rhapz · 10-13-2004, 02:13 PM

Furthermore, corporate or university firewalls are not friendly towards bittorent and dc++ so you will definetly get 0 d/l speed with one of those behind your internet.

NavySEAL · 10-13-2004, 03:42 PM

Everytime I'm downloading torrents or P2P, it's almost impossible to play some online game even though I have 512Kbps/Cable.

10-10-2004, 02:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Confederate Death Leprechaun Location: College Station, TX	Slow internet with Torrent and DC++ I know this may seem an obvious question, but when I use torrents and DC++ my internet gets really slow, esp when browsing pages. But when I download something from a webpage I usually get 100k/s downloads. I am on an HP with XP SP1, and using internet explorer on a cable modem. My questions is why can I download something from a webpage at around 100k/s and the webpage itself loads like I am on dial-up. And this only happens when I use P2P programs.

10-10-2004, 02:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
shadowalker Psycho Location: Firefox yourself and change the world!	When using p2p clients like bt and others, your soaking up your own useable bandwidth that is used for normal internet functions like browsing and dl'ing patches and suchs from websites. It has nothing to do with your computer, your os or anything like that, If you want faster browsing speeds stop downloading. __________________ I'll make ya famous!

10-10-2004, 03:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
shadowalker Psycho Location: Firefox yourself and change the world!	And it was NOT a sarcastic comment, i was letting you know that is was not a cause of your problem, and if you want to be such an ass like that, I'll make sure i never help you with any of your problems again. Unless you would like to appologize. __________________ I'll make ya famous!

10-13-2004, 02:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
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10-10-2004, 02:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Confederate Death Leprechaun Location: College Station, TX	I tossed my computer info in there becuase everytime someone asks a question in here, someone else asks what OS are you using and what internet browser do you use. If you had been here a bit longer maybe you would have realized that. And save the sarcastic comments for another board.

10-10-2004, 08:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	[color=orange]Guys, please keep it polite, I like to think our members here are better than some of the tech support people I've had to deal with. It was a simple misunderstanding, just sweep it under the rug and don't let it get to you. It's not worth arguing over.[/quote]

10-12-2004, 04:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
zero2 Junkie	I also had the same problem, when I first started using bittorrent, there was a point where I thought it was too much of a hassle downloading, or in order to download I would have to do it only at night when I would least likely to be hassled. I almost gave it up, because everytime I wanted to download something, someone was always bothering me, that the internet connection is "too slow", or "I can't get to hotmail.com". After awhile I got tired of making up excuses like, "The hotmail service is down" or "I think our ISP is just making a few changes." Anyhow, back to your problem, as others have stated, you probably need to lower your upload speed, this is probably the reason you are getting horrid 56k like speeds surfing the web, because both p2p program are competing for bandwidth. A couple of clients I would recommend are: bitornado, azerus, or abc client. Lastly you should also do the same for dc++, which should have an option to decrease upload speeds.

10-13-2004, 03:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
NavySEAL Crazy Location: U.S.	Everytime I'm downloading torrents or P2P, it's almost impossible to play some online game even though I have 512Kbps/Cable.